remember arthur mann
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Yup. English teams agricultural football was mandated by playing on mud heaps.
Yup. English teams agricultural football was mandated by playing on mud heaps.
After one of those finals the Pisscan said: “Faced with football like that, there is nothing you can do.”The press and pundits used to fawn over Whisky nose and his so called "football". Then along came Pep and Barca to humiliate them in the 2009 and 2011 CL finals playing sublime football!
Those were fantastic Ipswich sides, had everything, should have won far more than the did, why they didn’t I don’t really know, but up there with the dippers and Forest as the best team I remember for that era.Ipswich Town under Bobby Robson with Muhren and Tyissen? Late 70s / early 80s.
I think ,on balance your right.Don't get me wrong, we did play some great stuff under Mancini, but compared with now it was less patient, more direct and obviously didn't work that well compared to the top European teams.
There have always been teams who are an exception and play great football - sides like those you mentioned - but that's what they were, an exception. That's why you can remember them, because they were something a bit different - the majority of English football still didn't play that way. Not all like Wimbledon exactly, but some like that and then some inbetween.
It's only since Pep when English football as a whole has been lifted to be the pinnacle and the best football out there (regardless of what Sky say).
Maybe not on the same level as Hansen,but Glenn Roeder at QPR ,used to play a skilful centre back style,bringing the ball out of defence,using the famous " Roeder shuffle" in which he,d bamboozle a forward and bolt past him with the ball.this bit of skill was of course helped by the loftus road plastic pitch.You are right about the backpass rule but, to be fair, Hansen and Lawrenson did play the ball out from the back a lot of the time. They were the first ball-playing centre backs I remember in an English team. The 1970s Liverpool team was very direct but the 1980s version were brilliant at keeping the ball. They played like a European team.
I was amazed when Hansen was left out if the Scotland WC squad by Pisscan 86.Maybe not on the same level as Hansen,but Glenn Roeder at QPR ,used to play a skilful centre back style,bringing the ball out of defence,using the famous " Roeder shuffle" in which he,d bamboozle a forward and bolt past him with the ball.this bit of skill was of course helped by the loftus road plastic pitch.