When did it all start to go wrong?

I've mentioned it before on another thread... For me it was moving from Carrington to the new training complex mid season.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Burnley coming back from 2-0 down at our place.

Never got it back since then.

To be honest the whole season has been a shambles.

Agreed. Would love to see what would have happened had we held on and gone top that day. I don't think the next few months would have panned out in the same way.
 
I know they came to the club around the same time almost as a pack if you will but I still do not understand why people group Txiki and Soriano in the same group when it comes to appraisal and criticism.

Nothing wrong with Soriano, he is doing a great job. Some may say he has too many balls to juggle with the Melbourne, New York projects and thing but the bottom line is that he is taking the club forward.

Txiki Bergastain on the otherhand has been one of the reasons if not the main reason why things are going this way.

Time goes bye, players age, football is about the players,you need to get the right players in regardless of your situation, you need to refresh the squad and all those things.

If you don't then failure will hit you like a ton of bricks because as I said, management of players and player transfers is key for any club and we have been very poor in that respect.

I will put it this way: We aspire to be at the top of the game, to win the league, to go deep in the Champions league and win trophies.When was the last time we signed a genuine world class player? I mean really top drawer player...... you guessed it, 2011 and that was Kun Aguero and we are in 2015.

Think about that.
 
paulchapo said:
phil31 said:
paulchapo said:
I agree with some of that de niro. We are not privvy to what happens behind the scenes but in my opinion things should have been sorted with Mancini and he should have been allowed to continue. He was hung out to dry when the club needed to kick on from the title winning season with a couple of 'wow' signings,that was all it needed.Mancini knew that,the fans knew that but the board let him down.Instead we got Rodwell and fucking Sinclair!

He was a winner and changed the mentality of this football club who had never remotely looked like winning anything in 35 years until he took the helm.Even in that average season we came runners up in both the league and cup and if it wasn't for the turmoil behind the scenes would probably have won the cup.Players who he identified as a problem,like Nasri have reverted to type proving he was right.I couldn't give a fuck if he says hello to the kitman so long as the team win on the field,that is all that matters.

Wholesale rotation have undone us especially in defence as it has never had time to become a solid unit/You can rest one ot two players in so called 'lesser' games but not half a team.This is a mistake foreign managers often make as they don't understand the competitive nature of this league it is relentless.

I totally agree mate. Mancini was the perfect manager for City, He got us and we got him.

100%. He just got it from day one,his emotion and drive,his will to win,his tearing down that banner comment,rattling and standing toe to toe with that old bully Ferguson,his madcap antics,his ice cool demeanour he was one of us.

spot on

we shot ourselves in the foot big time
 
People tend to look at things in black and white, so some of the warning signs from last season were forgotten, once we'd won a couple of trophies.

However, the Pellegrini interview in Munich when he didn't realise that City were only one goal from topping the group, spoke volumes for his lack of preparation
 
Scaring Europe to Death said:
People tend to look at things in black and white, so some of the warning signs from last season were forgotten, once we'd won a couple of trophies.

However, the Pellegrini interview in Munich when he didn't realise that City were only one goal from topping the group, spoke volumes for his lack of preparation


Spoke volumes of his staff also, including Kiddo.
 
How about West Brom away.....Sopped playing the second half and never been able to rediscover that form.

Also don't under estimate how many players we had in Brazil and how this affected our players both mentally and physically.
 
Blueband Brother said:
I know they came to the club around the same time almost as a pack if you will but I still do not understand why people group Txiki and Soriano in the same group when it comes to appraisal and criticism.

Nothing wrong with Soriano, he is doing a great job. Some may say he has too many balls to juggle with the Melbourne, New York projects and thing but the bottom line is that he is taking the club forward.

Txiki Bergastain on the otherhand has been one of the reasons if not the main reason why things are going this way.

Time goes bye, players age, football is about the players,you need to get the right players in regardless of your situation, you need to refresh the squad and all those things.

If you don't then failure will hit you like a ton of bricks because as I said, management of players and player transfers is key for any club and we have been very poor in that respect.

I will put it this way: We aspire to be at the top of the game, to win the league, to go deep in the Champions league and win trophies.When was the last time we signed a genuine world class player? I mean really top drawer player...... you guessed it, 2011 and that was Kun Aguero and we are in 2015.

Think about that.

Spot on. I think Mangala will become world class however
 

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