When does a company or organisation have a right or duty to investigate a criminal allegation?

[dickie davies]

You missed out thumping your girlfriend

Boyfriend
She has a cock

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

In before it's pulled

Oh matron.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

For me if something is properly criminal (and I don't mean Debra in finance has been caught nicking staples and pencils) then it's straight to the rozzers.

In a completely hypothetical example, say a high level employee of a publicly funded body who is a well known influential public figure was caught doing illegal shit and paying off teenagers back in May, then I'd probably want the police involved before the middle of July. Just an example off the top of my head of course.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

For me if something is properly criminal (and I don't mean Debra in finance has been caught nicking staples and pencils) then it's straight to the rozzers.

In a completely hypothetical example, say a high level employee of a publicly funded body who is a well known influential public figure was caught doing illegal shit and paying off teenagers back in May, then I'd probably want the police involved before the middle of July. Just an example off the top of my head of course.

I worked at a place where a manager of a department "didn't come back to work" and we found out he'd been taking money. The company fired him but didn't want the police or a court case involved. They didn't want clients to know, bad publicity and all that. I also think the manager agreed to pay it back in exchange for not going down a legal route.

 

[mosssideblue]

If a criminal allegation was made against members of staff in most companies, I believe most employers would hand the investigation over to the police, perhaps after a very cursory look at the seriousness of any allegation ?

As an employer I wouldn't expect to investigate such issues myself.

Why are large organisations allowed to,
or infact want to, investigate criminal allegations with their staff ? Surely such allegations should be immediately handed to the police to ensure correct procedures are followed and evidence is not disturbed or lost.

Depends on the nature of the offence. Companies can and do conduct their own investigations to determine whether it warrants the old bill being notified. Often, companies Ts & C's will outline their disciplinary procedures.

 

[blueish swede]

It depends on the nature of the offence. It could have been committed against the company, for the benefit of the company, or have no relation to the company. In the case of the first two I would imagine an internal investigation would be necessary to judge the extent of the damage.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

For me if something is properly criminal (and I don't mean Debra in finance has been caught nicking staples and pencils) then it's straight to the rozzers.

In a completely hypothetical example, say a high level employee of a publicly funded body who is a well known influential public figure was caught doing illegal shit and paying off teenagers back in May, then I'd probably want the police involved before the middle of July. Just an example off the top of my head of course.

Hypothetically What if the aforementioned high level employee was accessing this person through Only Fans that only allows over 18s and the person had signed up underage?

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Maybe they should collate enough evidence first to make sure the Sun isn't lying again?

 

[NZBlue]

Maybe they should collate enough evidence first to make sure the Sun isn't lying again?

It's the old joke though- how do you tell when Boris Johnson is lying? His lips move. If it's in the Sun there is a good chance you can use similar logic

 

[domalino]

Maybe they should collate enough evidence first to make sure the Sun isn't lying again?

I know we’re not talking about a specific case that’s in the press, but it does seem to me that the tabloid in question is incredibly legally exposed if some of the counter-factuals that came out yesterday are true.

I remember @tolmie's hairdoo saying that if The Sun had lost the Johnny Depo case then they would have ceased to exist. You wonder if they might have finally bitten off more than they can chew.