When is it time for a change?

I suppose it depends if you're under 30 or not. If you are under 30 you PROBABLY, can't handle a few months of adversity and you'll want the club to ring the changes.
You'll probably want a new up and coming Spanish or Portuguese coach like the ones that don't last long enough to be memorable to anyone else in the bottom half, or someone like those nearly men at most of the top half clubs. Let's have it right. The ONLY two managers who have been worth their salaries in the last 10 years are Pep and Klopp, and one wore the other into semi retirement.

Some of our younger fans have very short attention spans, they are products of the modern world.

And it's going to get a hell of a lot worse IMHO.
 
A few months of poor form in over eight years is perfectly normal - happens to every great side. In fact it normally happens sooner than this. I take the rough with the smooth.
This current run is not normal. 1 win in 13 for the most successful club in world football in the last 10 years besides Madrid is a shambles.

Hopefully we address some of the problems in January and we can get Bobb back soon. This team needs a massive shake up. Pep needs a kick up the backside aswell, keeps persisting with the same dross players.
 
This current run is not normal. 1 win in 13 for the most successful club in world football in the last 10 years besides Madrid is a shambles.

Hopefully we address some of the problems in January and we can get Bobb back soon. This team needs a massive shake up. Pep needs a kick up the backside aswell, keeps persisting with the same dross players.
When you say the same dross players, you mean the players he has fit at any time, which would be all the players available?
Or if you mean throw a load of youngsters into a struggling side, I'll tell you now that won't work.
 
I will put it this way look at Kloop at the dippers 1 shocking season they only got Europa league then calls time himself the following season saying he will leave. We can all wonder what the fuck is going to happen. Were in the worst form in god know how long. Yes Pep deserves time as he has won us everything that he could. If this was a different manager let's be honest most of us be calling him clueless and asking for him to be sacked. Pep is a legend a genius a football mastermind but the form of the team is not good for a perfectionist like Pep. We need to see a upturn. We normally finish strong and I expect us to do that as when the chips are down the players always come good. So many out of form and injuries don't help but it will get better sooner rather than later.
 
I'm not really sure what to expect in Jan with transfers tbh. Most of us can see the deficiencies in the squad that exist now, but also those in the future. I can see maybe 1 or 2 arrivals in Jan, then another 3 to 4 in the summer. Departures will obviously affect this.I think by the end of the summer after we will have the majority of a new team/squad

I'm not really sure what to expect in Jan with transfers tbh. Most of us can see the deficiencies in the squad that exist now, but also those in the future. I can see maybe 1 or 2 arrivals in Jan, then another 3 to 4 in the summer. Departures will obviously affect this.I think by the end of the summer after we will have the majority of a new team/ squad.
The thing that still baffles me is how the club identified the need for a speedy left footed left back and then spent the summer of 2022 seemingly on the verge of signing Cucurella

I wasn't even bothered about Zinchenko going yet here we are more than two years later and still needing a speedy left footed left back.
 
The thing that still baffles me is how the club identified the need for a speedy left footed left back and then spent the summer of 2022 seemingly on the verge of signing Cucurella

I wasn't even bothered about Zinchenko going yet here we are more than two years later and still needing a speedy left footed left back.
Yes, possibly. I think we'll see a dedicated RB arrive, probably in the summer. Not sure what lies ahead in relation to the LB slot though.
 

I actually just assumed that that was a sarcastic post at the time, parodying all the hand wringing. I did not for one second think that it might be meant seriously. Now I see people talking about this guy's post history and apparently taking it as a seriously meant post.
I don't want to waste my time looking at his post history, but if It is, personally I'll put him straight on ignore.
 

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