When Is The Club Going To Stop Selling Tickets In The Home End To Away Fans?

[paulchapo]

One of the saddest things about reading this thread is the general consensus from City fans is that the club doesn’t care about the fans, their views, and their opinions anymore, and haven’t done for a long time. That’s damning in itself, never mind the reasons for that. This has happened gradually over the years, before and after Khaldoon’s promises that the ‘club would always listen to the fans, and would always take the fans views and opinions into consideration’, because without the fans, and their loyalty, there would be no Manchester City Football Club.

Sheikh Mansour, 2008, when he bought City.

As part of that, we will absolutely spend time listening to you the fans about what you think about the future of the club. We are very aware that without you there would not be a club to buy, and your voice will be heard by the organisation at the highest level.

A letter to the City fans from Sheikh Mansour

Sheikh Mansour letter to Manchester City fans 2008

www.mancity.com

Don't worry many more results like we've had lately and they'll be begging us to come back when all the glory hunters switch their alliance to Liverpool.

 

[fathellensbellend]

What was the official attendance? The upper south stand was half empty!!!

47011, over 3000 less than Sparta,and more away fans

 

[fathellensbellend]

Not sure that’s fair

There are problems with ticketing. People getting tickets ahead of ‘real fans’ - though when we were shit (the last time:-) how many people took in a European game on holiday to experience something we couldn’t get at home? We’re box office and an event now and so demand is a different challenge. It’s going to happen and arguably with expansions, happen more and be encouraged more. That’s in pursuit of more fans. The debate about local fans is a different argument but many could have gone on Tuesday and didn’t. Nothing wrong with that, but we can’t have empty stadiums either - which is why owners and directors are paid to make decisions, not people on forums, however much fun and good debate they are. Take a thread, use ‘consensus’ to make a decision and watch c50%immediately disagree. Depends where you’ve worked but the top directors do listen, take stock, prioritise and make employee and customer based decisions with a balanced lens. That’s why City have won everything while we debate our way through 10,000s of pages. That and people too close become too entitled, too opinionated and become blockers of progress. We mock ‘It Means More’ and refer to cults. Mainly spelt as cults. Those people can’t make the same decisions as directors

There wasn’t the same demand for Tuesday as a league game. It was a relatively cheap offer. So inviting schools seemed a good idea. It’s more on them to be respectful. But that’s a societal issue. One our owners have invested unbelievably in, considering local community improvement and CITC

Top players, managers, staff and facilities need paying for. The match day experience overall is fine. Queues could be reduced at the bars but they try different things, especially for families. I grew up at Maine Road, it was amazing. But it was a different kind of amazing where I stood with 19k blues with passion and connection with a team that won nothing bar a Shamrock Trophy. Hindsight gets filtered through a romantic sepia lens but our recent past has offered a better fan experience. It will become more remote and connection will be lost but we’re global now and not looking forward to a crunch match with Bury at Gigg Lane.

That isn’t not listening - making City great, winning things and delivering experiences most fans have never known would be top of most responses to that letter. Of course it can improve and sense check on if we’re drifting from what made us City. But it feels like he’s delivering overall to me.

I find it incredibly annoying the inviting of schools, for myself with travel and the number of tickets I am committed to, it’s 1/3 of my weekly take home pay for one modest group game. The cup schemes are the carrot for the final so to be in the mix you have to keep paying, unless you are in a supporters club, another arguement. If we cannot fill the ground it’s because it is too expensive generally, not these games in isolation, so to keep asking the same people to keep stumping up while non city are on freebies is to my mind isa massive piss take, even the supposed elite clubs have more flexibility with their tickets, Liverpool happily charge kids 9 quid, we charge 5 times that.

 

[Cellarite]

Woah, look out, hardest swinging dick on Bluemoon is in the building. Who needs away fans when we can have blue on blue.

How far away from the away end do you think City fans should move to ensure safety? Should we leave an empty block? The rest of the South Stand?

Please don’t suggest to me that I’m not bothered about the safety of my family. My lads are 23 and 17. They want to stand where they want to stand and being their Dad, I’ll stand with them. I’m not going to suggest to a 23 year old that we sit in the Family Stand.

Have you got kids? How do you keep them safe? Are they allowed to drink? Smoke? Attend matches? Cross roads?

 

[paulchapo]

On Ian Cheesmans blog on the game there is a massive group of kids going past outside the ground all chanting Rooney, Rooney. So it appears that whoever we are giving tickets to aren't fussy who gets one or have any control of their behaviour. I'd rather have empty seats than little rag scrotes on a freebie taking the piss.

 

[East Level 2]

On Ian Cheesmans blog on the game there is a massive group of kids going past outside the ground all chanting Rooney, Rooney. So it appears that whoever we are giving tickets to aren't fussy who gets one or have any control of their behaviour. I'd rather have empty seats than little rag scrotes on a freebie taking the piss.

The bloke from Brum confirmed the kids from his school paid for tickets (he didn't say how much) so the freebie stuff is nonsense. They should have been warned about taking the piss, such as by chanting "Rooney, Rooney", and warned they'd be going home before the game if it occurred.
But it was a CL game, the most prestigious club competition in the world (even though many City fans prefer the Prem), and we should have been doing far more to encourage actual City fans to attend.

 

[Prophet of Doom]

Not sure that’s fair

There are problems with ticketing. People getting tickets ahead of ‘real fans’ - though when we were shit (the last time:-) how many people took in a European game on holiday to experience something we couldn’t get at home? We’re box office and an event now and so demand is a different challenge. It’s going to happen and arguably with expansions, happen more and be encouraged more. That’s in pursuit of more fans. The debate about local fans is a different argument but many could have gone on Tuesday and didn’t. Nothing wrong with that, but we can’t have empty stadiums either - which is why owners and directors are paid to make decisions, not people on forums, however much fun and good debate they are. Take a thread, use ‘consensus’ to make a decision and watch c50%immediately disagree. Depends where you’ve worked but the top directors do listen, take stock, prioritise and make employee and customer based decisions with a balanced lens. That’s why City have won everything while we debate our way through 10,000s of pages. That and people too close become too entitled, too opinionated and become blockers of progress. We mock ‘It Means More’ and refer to cults. Mainly spelt as cults. Those people can’t make the same decisions as directors

There wasn’t the same demand for Tuesday as a league game. It was a relatively cheap offer. So inviting schools seemed a good idea. It’s more on them to be respectful. But that’s a societal issue. One our owners have invested unbelievably in, considering local community improvement and CITC

Top players, managers, staff and facilities need paying for. The match day experience overall is fine. Queues could be reduced at the bars but they try different things, especially for families. I grew up at Maine Road, it was amazing. But it was a different kind of amazing where I stood with 19k blues with passion and connection with a team that won nothing bar a Shamrock Trophy. Hindsight gets filtered through a romantic sepia lens but our recent past has offered a better fan experience. It will become more remote and connection will be lost but we’re global now and not looking forward to a crunch match with Bury at Gigg Lane.

That isn’t not listening - making City great, winning things and delivering experiences most fans have never known would be top of most responses to that letter. Of course it can improve and sense check on if we’re drifting from what made us City. But it feels like he’s delivering overall to me.

There have been thousands of empty seats at every CL game this season, so whatever you think the club are doing to make us ‘box office’ is failing badly.

If you think dishing out hundreds of freebies to Utd supporting kids to boost a poor attendance was a good idea then fair play. It’s complete madness in my book.

Hundreds of Feyenoord fans in the home end is nothing to do with us being ‘box office’. It’s criminal neglect of security by the club both to supporters and the stewards faced with dealing with it once they are in the home end.

The people running the club don’t care about us. They haven’t engaged for years and have seemed intent on alienating all legacy supporters. If they had engaged, they might see the stadium full for every game like it should be after the team success we have enjoyed for years.

Who on earth do they think will fill the extra 8000 seats ?

 

[Stephen Ireland's pants]

The bloke from Brum confirmed the kids from his school paid for tickets (he didn't say how much) so the freebie stuff is nonsense. They should have been warned about taking the piss, such as by chanting "Rooney, Rooney", and warned they'd be going home before the game if it occurred.
But it was a CL game, the most prestigious club competition in the world (even though many City fans prefer the Prem), and we should have been doing far more to encourage actual City fans to attend.

I know of one school who get free tickets. The are given them in pairs not as a group outing. It also doesn't matter if your not a city fan .

 

[Tim of the Oak]

I’ve no idea if the Directors care or not. I recall
Bill and Sheila and others used to say Danny Wilson was responsive and caring and gave examples to support their view:

My Mum recently passed away and we got a message of condolences from Soriano’s sister (whose an Executive at Nike). She and r kid exchange messages on social media and she has expressed an interest in our OSC Branch.

I had a good build up to the match, drinking with Feyenord’s supporters club. We had met them over the years through a link up with 1894 in Rotterdam. I support the idea of getting netting up between the away end and our home stands to prevent missiles hitting Blues.

Some fans in the home end took the piss but it was hardly the 70s or 80s again.

 

[give it to gordon]

The bloke from Brum confirmed the kids from his school paid for tickets (he didn't say how much) so the freebie stuff is nonsense. They should have been warned about taking the piss, such as by chanting "Rooney, Rooney", and warned they'd be going home before the game if it occurred.
But it was a CL game, the most prestigious club competition in the world (even though many City fans prefer the Prem), and we should have been doing far more to encourage actual City fans to attend.

When the CL tickets were around £30 mark it was affordable for us to travel up and stay at a local premier for about £40.
Those days have gone.

The worst for away fans I've experience was the fa Cup against Port Vale. We were surrounded by them in the East Stand. They spent the whole match trying to start fights.
That season was bad for away fans at CL games as well.

City have a big problem with tickets as I have said before, we can't get seats next to each other this season . Plus 72quid for the rags game to be sat away from my lad Citu can do one