When was your first season ticket and when were they introduced at City ?

Looking back now it is staggering [the 40K plus averages in 1976/7 and 1977/8] dropped a cliff to the extent that they did - a low point of 19,472 just 10 years later in 1987/1988. But that is another story...

Although that attendance of 19,472 was 12th best in the country when we finished mid-table in the second tier (we were 30th in the league structure as a whole), so it wasn't too bad. Would, say, Spurs, who got just over 7K per game more (fifth in the attendances table) when finishing mid-table in the division higher and having the feel-good factor of a run to the FA Cup final, have matched that if they'd been mid-table in the division below? Villa, for example, were in our division that season and won automatic promotion - and their average gate was over 1K per game less than ours. Forest finished third in Division One and reached a Cup semi-final; they averaged 19,670. In that context, I don't think our crowds were actually too bad that season.

I also remember the Billy McNeill 'help me make City great again' leaflet for the Development Association. He'd gone within a month of it being issued.

I'd forgotten that. Great timing, given that Billy (who, I strongly feel is much underrated as a City boss) walked out because he felt that making City great in the near future was pretty much a forlorn hope. Though his wlaking out for another club probably explains to some degree why he's underrated.

It's astonishing to think how far football fell in this country and also how robustly it has recovered from that demise.

Definitely. Go back 30 years and we were in the season after Heysel, various other notable hooligan incidents (the infamous Millwall riot at Luton, for instance) and the Bradford fire. English teams were banned from Europe, which meant that so many games in the second half of the season were meaningless. Sterile long-ball football was the norm, in crumbling stadia and in front of often pitiful crowds. If someone had been able to magically transport you forward to show you how things would be 30 years later, you'd have been absolutely incredulous in a way that I don't think someone shown the difference between the football climates of the three decades between, say, 1946 and 1976 would have been. (I think someone shown the difference between 1956 and 1986 would have been a little shocked at just how miserable spectacle it had all become).
 
Thanks for that Gary.

I was not too far off with the "discount" - breakeven after 13 or 14 games then and not 12. Still great value at the time particularly when you add the other advantages.

I like the Bernard Halford story and, now you mention it, it is another memory jog.

I'm still surprised (but accept) that we had as many as 23,000 ST holders in 77/78 albeit Swales and his pricing policy for cashflow would have helped greatly. It's interesting looking back at the average attendances at that time - 76/77 40,058 and 77/78 41,687. These 2 seasons were the 1st time we had an average of over 40,000 since 1948. Looking back now it is staggering they dropped a cliff to the extent that they did - a low point of 19,472 just 10 years later in 1987/1988. But that is another story...

It wasn't just at City though.
In 1986 we played Villa away on New Years Day - 14,000 were there (I was one of them!) This is 4 years after they were European Champions!
In March 86 we played at Stamford Bridge in front of 17,000!
 
I'd forgotten that. Great timing, given that Billy (who, I strongly feel is much underrated as a City boss) walked out because he felt that making City great in the near future was pretty much a forlorn hope. Though his wlaking out for another club probably explains to some degree why he's underrated.
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He had the dubious honour of being manager of both City and Villa in the same season - both were relegated! McNeill was then sacked by Deadly Doug Ellis. (I was amazed to see a shot of him at Eastlands last week at the game, thought he had departed earth a few years back!)
 
He had the dubious honour of being manager of both City and Villa in the same season - both were relegated! McNeill was then sacked by Deadly Doug Ellis. (I was amazed to see a shot of him at Eastlands last week at the game, thought he had departed earth a few years back!)

McNeill was the second manager to manage two top flight clubs in the same season, both of which were relegated at the end of that season. The first man did it the previous season.

Quiz question - who was he, and which were the two teams? Clue - there's a connection with MCFC here.
 
Kippax DD lower in the championship promotion season under Royle. 99/00, IIRC. I was 19 and earning full time wages so it was my first big purchase with the pay cheque. I then moved to East Stand 109 in The COMS before not renewing as I moved away. I missed it too much so moved to 211 then 216 and now 117. I might move again next season if I can get a good seat.
 
I think he means that he bought the ticket for that season in the spring of 1989, without knowing whether we were going to get promoted or not for the following campaign. Fortunately, we did, though we cut it a bit fine. :)

The renewals always came out before the end of the previous season and there were always discounts for renewing early, IIRC.

Spot on Petrusha - that season ticket was great value as it was a pretty eventful year - the 5-1 was worth the price alone (although I should have got some money back for being forced to watch Wayne Clarke!)
 
My (much) older brother tells me that our dad bought him a season ticket for City as a present when he was nobbut a lad. This gave him access to all home league games plus all central League games (when the reserves played at Maine Rd when the first team were away). It was just before the war. It cost......ten shillings (50p). Ten bob was then, of course a fifth or a sixth of a working man's weekly wage. Still seems good value, though.
I assume he is telling the truth. I think he is.
 

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