Whereto from here, Adebayor?

[Damocles]

But the only way Ade is going to prove the manager wrong, the doubters wrong, is to perform whenever the opportiunity is handed to him.

And can you honestly say he has taken that chance?

Did Silva do this in his numerous appearances before he hit form?

Should we sell him and slag him off as lazy too?

What about Milner?

'Grabbing opportunities' is all well and good, but any single striker in the world will tell you that 2 starts and a couple of sub appearances in a season is absolutely not enough time to get into form, especially if they are stop-start as they have been with Ade.<br /><br />-- Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:16 pm --<br /><br />

Adebayor has the lazy tag because the Arsenal fans gave it him, and some fucking idiots on here (who obviously don't watch him play) have just decided that he's lazy, despite him charging around the pitch against Blackpool.

I want evidence of his laziness; if that's lazy, then De Jong is a fucking snowman.

I wouldn't say he's lazy at the running about part. He isn't good at it by any means, but he will look like he's closing an opponent down and doing something. But he actually didn't put any if their players under enough pressure to tackle them or make them make a mistake. The worst part of him is when we have the ball, or especially when he has the ball. His effort levels are nil at keepin the ball when it's at his feet, there to be held up, or there for what is sometimes a 70-30 header in his favour - he loses the ball in all these situations!

I don't even know what that means.

 

[citygirl77]

thank god alot of you are having your eyes opened, from day one I've said he should have stayed down south, I've got his bus fare ready !

Is'nt there a cooking forum or a shopping forum you could be spouting off on?

shouldn't you be doing homework sonny!

 

[FantasyIreland]

Adebayor has the lazy tag because the Arsenal fans gave it him, and some fucking idiots on here (who obviously don't watch him play) have just decided that he's lazy, despite him charging around the pitch against Blackpool.

I want evidence of his laziness; if that's lazy, then De Jong is a fucking snowman.

His bodylanguage,effort and general play is lazy,or to be more accurate,halfhearted.
Yes he might run around a bit,however,there's no real desire to succeed,he goes into challenges without conviction,he doesn't strain every sinew to reach a ball,to summarise,his body is never on the line,he could put in so much more effort,fight and will to win,he chooses otherwise,and this, IMO,is why he is considered lazy.

 

[bmooner1984]

But the only way Ade is going to prove the manager wrong, the doubters wrong, is to perform whenever the opportiunity is handed to him.

And can you honestly say he has taken that chance?

Did Silva do this in his numerous appearances before he hit form?

Should we sell him and slag him off as lazy too?

What about Milner?

'Grabbing opportunities' is all well and good, but any single striker in the world will tell you that 2 starts and a couple of sub appearances in a season is absolutely not enough time to get into form, especially if they are stop-start as they have been with Ade.

Yes but in our position with the array of talent and funds, if you dont perform when you play then you aint got a leg to stand on when looking to start games.

Its a harsh reality. If we didnt have Jo, Cruz Ballotelli etc he may be given a run but other players are gonna start ahead if he performs below par when given a chance.

I dont like the c*nt anyway but thats not the point, the point is its survival of the fittest when you sign loads of players for massive money.<br /><br />-- Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:21 pm --<br /><br />

Is'nt there a cooking forum or a shopping forum you could be spouting off on?

shouldn't you be doing home sonny!

Stop flirting

 

[baylorblue]

It seems pretty obvious that he has his heart set on a move to Juve and I say good for him. If he wants to leave let him leave, we don't need to hold onto players who'd rather be elsewhere. Let me just say though that he's going to deeply regret moving there. He'll likely be facing racial abuse on a weekly basis. If not from the Juve fans then from everyone else. Let's not forget how they treated Balotelli and they excuses they gave trying to justify their actions.

 

[Golden Slumbers]

14 goals last season.

Started 1 game this season.

Yeah, he's shit.

I'm thoroughly pissed off with the complete twattery of some fans. I don't know what you guys know about performance analysis, but if you seem to believe that you're about to hit top form by playing 60 minutes against Blackpool, with a few sub appearances thrown in and one game for the B Team, then you are sadly mistaken.

What the fuck happened to supporting players? Especially those like Adebayor who obviously need it?

Also, this whole idea of laziness stems from Arsenal fans rather than any real opinions of people on here. It's an easy cliche to use. If you look at distance covered statistics, Ade is in front of nearly everybody but Tevez. Or you could, perhaps, watch the game and see how much closing down he does in the final third?

What exactly does this man do to deserve the laziness tag, apart from being a Black African?

That's an unfair comment, it's not like we accuse Kolo or Yaya or our numerous other black players (albeit not African) of being lazy?

I understand the point your making and I've been giving Ade the benefit of the doubt for a while now, mainly because of his 14 goals last season, but his touch has always been appalling and even though he does chip in with a fair amount of goals he ruins so many moves because of his touch. When Silva came on yesterday the game became much more free-flowing and synchronized, I'm not sure it's a coincidence that Ade had left the pitch.

Having said all that I think some of the criticism of him is a little bit harsh but then again I was beginning to hate him during the Blackpool match, I might feel less annoyance towards his performance because we won.

 

[Damocles]

Adebayor has the lazy tag because the Arsenal fans gave it him, and some fucking idiots on here (who obviously don't watch him play) have just decided that he's lazy, despite him charging around the pitch against Blackpool.

I want evidence of his laziness; if that's lazy, then De Jong is a fucking snowman.

His bodylanguage,effort and general play is lazy,or to be more accurate,halfhearted.
Yes he might run around a bit,however,there's no real desire to succeed,he goes into challenges without conviction,he doesn't strain every sinew to reach a ball,to summarise,his body is never on the line,he could put in so much more effort,fight and will to win,he chooses otherwise,and this, IMO,is why he is considered lazy.

Ah right, I'm with you, it's because people have just decided that he's lazy because of his 'body language' and 'conviction'. I expect that these people must be experts in the field of body language to come up with such an opinion against their own player.

Basically, what people are saying then, is that even though the statistics and facts don't agree, you're right because you think you know what a player who isn't 'half hearted' should look like?

That's pretty much what I thought, you are justifying a cliche that has no basis in reality. Who exactly are you to determine what goes on in the lad's head and how committed he is?

There are numerous bad points about Adebayor's game that people could pick up on, yet they pick the one that is utter bollocks, that's what annoyed me. Speak about his lack of power for his size, his control or his inept passing, by all means, but don't just make shit up.<br /><br />-- Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:26 pm --<br /><br />

14 goals last season.

Started 1 game this season.

Yeah, he's shit.

I'm thoroughly pissed off with the complete twattery of some fans. I don't know what you guys know about performance analysis, but if you seem to believe that you're about to hit top form by playing 60 minutes against Blackpool, with a few sub appearances thrown in and one game for the B Team, then you are sadly mistaken.

What the fuck happened to supporting players? Especially those like Adebayor who obviously need it?

Also, this whole idea of laziness stems from Arsenal fans rather than any real opinions of people on here. It's an easy cliche to use. If you look at distance covered statistics, Ade is in front of nearly everybody but Tevez. Or you could, perhaps, watch the game and see how much closing down he does in the final third?

What exactly does this man do to deserve the laziness tag, apart from being a Black African?

That's an unfair comment, it's not like we accuse Kolo or Yaya or our numerous other black players (albeit not African) of being lazy?

I was commenting more on Arsenal fans than City fans to be honest, and their stereotype that all Black African strikers are lazy.

 

[mancitytmdanttom]

14 goals last season.

Started 1 game this season.

Yeah, he's shit.

I'm thoroughly pissed off with the complete twattery of some fans. I don't know what you guys know about performance analysis, but if you seem to believe that you're about to hit top form by playing 60 minutes against Blackpool, with a few sub appearances thrown in and one game for the B Team, then you are sadly mistaken.

What the fuck happened to supporting players? Especially those like Adebayor who obviously need it?

Also, this whole idea of laziness stems from Arsenal fans rather than any real opinions of people on here. It's an easy cliche to use. If you look at distance covered statistics, Ade is in front of nearly everybody but Tevez. Or you could, perhaps, watch the game and see how much closing down he does in the final third?

What exactly does this man do to deserve the laziness tag, apart from being a Black African?

What the fcuk does his colour have to do with anything - you're a deluded tw@t if you think he puts in any effort - Do you actually go to any games or do you sit at home watching / analysing

 

[Soulboy]

14 goals last season.

Started 1 game this season.

Yeah, he's shit.

I'm thoroughly pissed off with the complete twattery of some fans. I don't know what you guys know about performance analysis, but if you seem to believe that you're about to hit top form by playing 60 minutes against Blackpool, with a few sub appearances thrown in and one game for the B Team, then you are sadly mistaken.

What the fuck happened to supporting players? Especially those like Adebayor who obviously need it?

Also, this whole idea of laziness stems from Arsenal fans rather than any real opinions of people on here. It's an easy cliche to use. If you look at distance covered statistics, Ade is in front of nearly everybody but Tevez. Or you could, perhaps, watch the game and see how much closing down he does in the final third?

What exactly does this man do to deserve the laziness tag, apart from being a Black African?

So by picking him only once this season (and that's stretching the truth a fair bit by using that "fact"!)... I assume that makes Mancini a fucking idiot in your eyes?

I remember McManaman being accused of being lazy... I remember Fowler being accused of being lazy... I'm not sure what the racist comment was about with regard to Adebayor to be honest.

If you can't see that he has been poor for City for the best part of 9 months since he returned from the African Cup then you really do have to dump the stats and actually watch his contribution during the games.

It may have affected him far more than we realised, but that doesn't mean we have to give him games out of sympathy for his plight. The bottom line is that we look far worse with him in the team than we do when we don't play him...

Harsh but true.

 

[Damocles]

Nice reading guys, well played.

I'm not saying he's playing well, I'm not saying that he isn't shit, I'm saying that this laziness tag is unjust.

I'll tell you what, why don't you guys just make my argument for me, and argue against yourself, as that's what you currently seem to be doing.

Also, Ade has been picked twice this season, once against B'Pool, once in the UEFA Cup. That is a fact, not stretching anything, it's just how many times he started for us. He came on in 4 games.