Which players are no longer good enough?

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Hart, Kompany, Silva, KDB, Aguero is the spine of a fantastic team. 30 is the peak for most footballers and if you stay fit you can stay at that level for some time.

Staying fit seems to be a problem for at least two of them.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Everyone of your points made sense, overall i agree with you.
But i am pretty sure that Pep will get rid of Bony from day one.
Same goes for Navas, as i don't expect Pep to bare the ordeal of being frustrated constantly by Jesus' one dimensional game and poor end-product.

Bony is going to cost us! I cant see anyone willing to pay more than £15m for him and we will probably end up subbing wages like we usually do when we want rid. I bet by the time he has gone he will have cost us well over £25m for 18m of shite!

 

[Dax777]

Disagree on Mangala and Fernando. They are just coming good. I think Delph also deserves a chance.

At leftback. He doesn't stand a chance in midfield. Just doesn't see the play. Overlaps beautifully though, even though he doesn't get the ball when he does, unless DeBryune is playing.

 

[Dax777]

In order of need to replace.....

kolarov
Yaya
Bony
Navas
Fernando
Zaba

I could name more but I don't think it will be realistic.

No Demichelis?

 

[FantasyIreland]

No Demichelis?

I didn't see the need as its not even a debate,he's gone.

 

[Blueknows]

Not neccessarily not good enough but in my opinion who wont be here next season
Mdm - legs gone ,way past his sell by date
Wright - time he moved on
Willy - need a better understudy regardless of his LC final heroics
Kolarov - not good enough defensively
Zab - legend whos best days are behind him Im sorry to say
Yaya - another whos age has caught up with him
Nando - not consistent enough
Navas - for a winger his final ball and decisions are not good enough
Bony - need I say more that hasnt already been said about wilf
Jovetic - end of season loan to purchase deal
Edin - as above

 

[Dax777]

I think Pep will have to have 4 categories of player...

1) Who is inadequate - sell
2) Who is adequate - keep, but actively start looking for upgrades
3) Who is nearing end of life - keep, but actively start scouting for replacements
4) Highly capable, and no need to replace

We have quite a few players in categories 1 & 2 (Ota,Mangala,Clichy,Kolarov,Navas,Bony, Sterling,Nasri,Delph,Fernandinho) - the question is which of those Pep feels he accept in improve and which he can't.
Many of our stalwarts - Kompany, Zab, Silva, Yaya are in category 3.
Arguably only Hart, Aguero and KdB are in category 4

When laid out like this, there's quite a lot of work to be done (or certainly lots of scope for improvement). Hand on heart, most of our players are not at the very high end of European football, they're at the higher end of PL football only, and of those that are high end, they're getting on.

We all debate about the future prospects of younger players like Nacho and Sterling, but if Pep is tasked with winning PL and CL and if here for 3 years, then we have to ask 'are they likely to be CL winning material in the next 2-3 years'?'


I am seriously hoping Pep believes he can coach a lot of players into being significantly better - e.g. Sterling, Delph, Ota, Mangala, Fernando otherwise he's got a hell of a job on his hands, because hand on heart, I think there's only Hart, Aguero and KdB that would pique the interests of Europe's very best teams, and maybe they'd take a punt on Sterling, but I'm not convinced.

This! Oh so this! So so this!!!! :-) Finally, someone said it. Didn't want to be the one to say it,coz I have a bad reputation for picking on our legends. Only tweak, I think Dihno is in group 3.

 

[meeesh]

Why would you add a player who's only 21 on that list who's going to be playing under the best manager in the world. And got bags of potential

As I've said before,my fingers are crossed,but I really worry about this,more than I should really,but I do

 

[Dax777]

Has Silva been pooor this season? I thought his assists were better than previous seasons? at 30/31 he doesnt have much future but I did assume that both he and KDB are our only real creators and were probably good for another season.... they play really well together imo... I just think Silva will be asked to work harder and lets see if he does

It's all about narratives: it's funny how midway through the season the prevailing claim was that Silva and DeBryune couldn't play together. And Silva on the srenght of his first 4 games was deemed to be having a great season and his poor games were put down to Injury ( which may be true) and DeBryune's disjointed presence.

Then DeBryune got injured, and we really sucked ( albeit we had started sucking before Kev's injury, and some blamed our poor form on DeBryune being unable to gel with the team or play well on the road.

Then we got worse in his absence, then he came back and provided some spark, and now the new

I didn't see the need as its not even a debate,he's gone.

Lol. That's just raw :)

 

[prof-taf]

The scary thing is that you're looking at the majortiy of the squad with that question. Just another reminder of how shit Txiki has been at his job.

Sorry but that is nonsense.