Who can we actually class as world class players?

Fat Chance said:
haller said:
nope, if you'd read my 3rd reply to you, rather than being selective, you would have seen the line with this comment below.

i'll paste it here, so you can easily find which quote it was.

corrigan still wasn't better than jennings, who imo was the best british keeper around at,the time

Yeah well i chose to ignore that one cause i did kinda mention right at the very start (i cant be arsed highlighting it) that corrigan was world class for a 4 yr period towards the end of his career right around the time he lost his weight and broke the shilton/clemence bio right to international (world) caps. This was a period in time he was actually better than Jennings, Jennings i agree had been more than a gud 'un but his period was earlier, post '76-ish he was unashamedly off his best and busying himself with collecting testomonials. Read what i actually wrote before you start giving folk instructions to what to do with thier glasses...is my tip for the day.

I read your post at the start and saw the time you were referring to, around 79/80-83/84 i assumed, and like i said, world class is used too loosely.
joe corrigan, world class? never. you could take anytime in his career, and he wouldn't have been 1st choice goalkeeper in any world XI side, which is what world class means isn't it?
Good keeper, undoubtedly yes, world class?,no.
 
haller said:
Fat Chance said:
Yeah well i chose to ignore that one cause i did kinda mention right at the very start (i cant be arsed highlighting it) that corrigan was world class for a 4 yr period towards the end of his career right around the time he lost his weight and broke the shilton/clemence bio right to international (world) caps. This was a period in time he was actually better than Jennings, Jennings i agree had been more than a gud 'un but his period was earlier, post '76-ish he was unashamedly off his best and busying himself with collecting testomonials. Read what i actually wrote before you start giving folk instructions to what to do with thier glasses...is my tip for the day.

I read your post at the start and saw the time you were referring to, around 79/80-83/84 i assumed, and like i said, world class is used too loosely.
joe corrigan, world class? never. you could take anytime in his career, and he wouldn't have been 1st choice goalkeeper in any world XI side, which is what world class means isn't it?
Good keeper, undoubtedly yes, world class?,no.

Slow the bastherd bus our kid, lets keep it simple simon said....by '77/'78/'79/'80 Jennings wasnt even the third best keeper in the country but i have a sneaky suspicion you know that and i'm on candid camera.
 
Sabster said:
toddy111 said:
Rooney is VERY overrated.
99% of his goals are tap ins and he only really performs when his team are playing well - He showed this in England vs USA.

Tevez can change games, the way he runs at people and doesn't give up is unbelievable (unlike Rooney - if things aren't going his way he gives up and has a strop). Tevez can hit a goal or two from out side the box and around the edge of the area (as he proved last season). Rooney has scored 91 goals for Utd in the 189 games he has played for Utd (0.48 goals per game). Tevez has only been at City for one season and has had to have time to gel etc and scored 23 goals in 35 games (0.66 goals per game).

For these reasons i would pick Tevez over Rooney in my World XI team...

Extremely biased view there. Tevez is not in the top 5 strikers in the world, and Rooney works just as hard and has the propensity to change games just as much as tevez does.

What was tevez's goal ratio at united? Only fair comparison..
Tevez' form of last season makes him in the top 5 strikers in the world though because there isn't 5 forwards who were better than him in the major leagues in the world.

Best out and out centre forwards of last season for me

1. Didier Drogba
2. Wayne Rooney
3. Diego Milito
4. Carlos Tevez
5. Gonzalo Higuain
6. David Villa
7. Fernando Torres
8. Jermain Defoe
9. Edin Dzeko
10. Antonio Di Natale
 
10.Goater_Legend said:
Sabster said:
Extremely biased view there. Tevez is not in the top 5 strikers in the world, and Rooney works just as hard and has the propensity to change games just as much as tevez does.

What was tevez's goal ratio at united? Only fair comparison..
Tevez' form of last season makes him in the top 5 strikers in the world though because there isn't 5 forwards who were better than him in the major leagues in the world.

Best out and out centre forwards of last season for me

1. Didier Drogba
2. Wayne Rooney
3. Diego Milito
4. Carlos Tevez
5. Gonzalo Higuain
6. David Villa
7. Fernando Torres
8. Jermain Defoe
9. Edin Dzeko
10. Antonio Di Natale


in wich way isnt milito at the top of that llist ?
 
Rooney is not as good as he was hyped up to be a few months ago but neither is he as bad as the last few games would suggest.
Tagrat ran him into the ground last season-with Rooney's compliance- and the result is plain to see.
We will prob see him excelling at club level but falling a bit short against elite opposition for a few more years before burning out in late 20's.
He may do a Scholes to prolong his club career. The booing last night will increase the chances of him doing so and Fergie certainly won't be talking him out of it.
 
Fat Chance said:
haller said:
I read your post at the start and saw the time you were referring to, around 79/80-83/84 i assumed, and like i said, world class is used too loosely.
joe corrigan, world class? never. you could take anytime in his career, and he wouldn't have been 1st choice goalkeeper in any world XI side, which is what world class means isn't it?
Good keeper, undoubtedly yes, world class?,no.

Slow the bastherd bus our kid, lets keep it simple simon said....by '77/'78/'79/'80 Jennings wasnt even the third best keeper in the country but i have a sneaky suspicion you know that and i'm on candid camera.

I was winding u up a bit, i was more concerned that the 4 years before the cessation of his career he was world class,( which you stated, not me) he only played for us for 2 of them, the rest he played for seattle sounders,brighton, norwich and stoke(hardly clubs for a "so called world class keeper to be playing at"), and in them 2 years that he was playing for us, even jimmy rimmer and paul cooper (one of the best penalty savers i've seen) were on better form than he was.
I just couldn't figure out anywhere were you would even think he was world class.
the way you were talking was if someone had 1 good season that makes them world class, and that was the point i was making that the term is used far too loosely.
To be considered world class, in my mind you should be producing top notch performances over a number of seasons constant, not just the odd 1 or 2 here and there.
 
10.Goater_Legend said:
Sabster said:
Extremely biased view there. Tevez is not in the top 5 strikers in the world, and Rooney works just as hard and has the propensity to change games just as much as tevez does.

What was tevez's goal ratio at united? Only fair comparison..
Tevez' form of last season makes him in the top 5 strikers in the world though because there isn't 5 forwards who were better than him in the major leagues in the world.

Best out and out centre forwards of last season for me

1. Didier Drogba
2. Wayne Rooney
3. Diego Milito
4. Carlos Tevez
5. Gonzalo Higuain
6. David Villa
7. Fernando Torres
8. Jermain Defoe
9. Edin Dzeko
10. Antonio Di Natale

Haahahahaha, Tevez better than milito villa and torres hahahahahahahhahahahahah.
 
Sabster said:
10.Goater_Legend said:
Tevez' form of last season makes him in the top 5 strikers in the world though because there isn't 5 forwards who were better than him in the major leagues in the world.

Best out and out centre forwards of last season for me

1. Didier Drogba
2. Wayne Rooney
3. Diego Milito
4. Carlos Tevez
5. Gonzalo Higuain
6. David Villa
7. Fernando Torres
8. Jermain Defoe
9. Edin Dzeko
10. Antonio Di Natale

Haahahahaha, Tevez better than milito villa and torres hahahahahahahhahahahahah.

This contant berating of Tevez is becoming tiresome, he was excellent for us last year thats a fact that can't be ignored!

Last season was his best in English football and at only 25 will get better imo, our top goalscorer, how any city fan can put the lads ability down like you constantly do is beyond me!

You're behaviour towards him reminds me of many bitter rags, and for that you are now a fcuking dirty rag in my eyes.
 

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