Who did Mancini p*ss off?

pardoeofftomexico said:
blueincy said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Pretty well everyone from the Sheikh downwards. Even consummate professionals like Silva and Zabaleta were complaining bitterly about him. But it's completely wrong to say player power forced him out. It may have played a part but it was his behaviour towards the people above him that got him the chop.

The answer IMOMarwood

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...sfer-activity-at-manchester-city-8031065.html

But from that article it was Mancini's fault for not taking the opportunity to cash in on Balotelli.

Never mind the article, you have to have your head buried deep in some deep quicksand to think that anyone other Mancini got Mancini sacked. Even when Mancini complained about Marwood, he did it because he knew that if he complained directly about Mansour or Khaldoon his arse would've been canned even quicker. Marwood didn't set budgets, identify targets, or anything like that. All he did was go out and get the players that Mancini wanted that Khaldoon/Abu Dhabi authorised spending on.

The fact we didn't get Hazard, Van Persie, De Rossi, etc is simply because Abu Dhabi didn't authorise the spend, and they didn't for very good and sound financial AND squad reasons. I mean what exactly did people expect would have happened had Mancini added Van Persie to a roster of forwards that included Tevez, Balo, Kun, and Dzeko? It was a nonsensical move from Mancini at the time to even think about signing Van Persie.

I think it probably also concerned the owners that Mancini was always after the read made, world class, super expensive, player. His 'budget' signings showed just how lacking his scouting network and eye for a player was.
 
pardoeofftomexico said:
blueincy said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Pretty well everyone from the Sheikh downwards. Even consummate professionals like Silva and Zabaleta were complaining bitterly about him. But it's completely wrong to say player power forced him out. It may have played a part but it was his behaviour towards the people above him that got him the chop.

The answer IMOMarwood

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...sfer-activity-at-manchester-city-8031065.html

But from that article it was Mancini's fault for not taking the opportunity to cash in on Balotelli.
Spot on. We had van Persie lined up for a few months but for FFP reasons RM was told we had to sell a forward before we could finalise the deal. We had offers for Balotelli but he refused to sell so the RVP deal fell through. RM had no one to blame but himself for.
 
I've always thought his terrible last season had far more to do with his sacking than his inability to be civil with anyone. People will tolerate a **** when it's working, but if they're being a twat and doing badly then things are only going to go one way.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
pardoeofftomexico said:
blueincy said:

But from that article it was Mancini's fault for not taking the opportunity to cash in on Balotelli.
Spot on. We had van Persie lined up for a few months but for FFP reasons RM was told we had to sell a forward before we could finalise the deal. We had offers for Balotelli but he refused to sell so the RVP deal fell through. RM had no one to blame but himself for.

There were strong rumours that PSG had offered 50 million for Mario. Looking back what an awful decision it was to keep him at that point. Both from a footballing perspective and a financial one.
 
bugsyblue said:
Mancini was largly sacked because of the poisonous dressing room that was created due to his man management style. But who was it that really wanted Mancini gone? Aguero has come out recently and said very complimentary things about Mancini and how he really improved his game. Likewise Mancini is actively pursuing yaya now which indicates he believes he'd want to play under him again. So who was it? Hart, kompany, silva?

Be interesting to know which players wanted him gone and also see if there is a comparison with their recent form. Ie if it was Hart that wanted him gone then was it simply because Mancini didn't value him? Just wondered if it was ever actually known which players turned against him?

It was also said that Inter had made an offer to Milner, another player that it seemed he had fallen out with.

I get the impression that Mancini is one of those naturally combative types that just doesnt realise the extent to which he rubs up people. For him its just normal manager-player interaction.

I dont really see why the club would feel unable to accept his resignation after the QPR game. Not unless he had some genuine grievance that he could go public with. If he'd resigned in a fit of pique, it wouldnt matter that he'd won the title, the fans would still have sided with the club. Players or managers that want away can turn from heroes to villains overnight. If he'd ruined the celebrations by handing in his resignation, without good cause, he would have been regarded as no better than Tevez after his walk out.
 
Can't belive so many blues can't remember pantillamon cut his own throat by declaring he wanted to leave in the summer prior to the fa cup final.thats why he was dropped.look it up he made a big mistake by making them comments
 
Unless anyone here has a beer of an evening with the sheikh i don't think anyone knows 100%.
Like Karen say's, this has had every reasonable answer given a 100 times before, no, much more than that.

Not having a go at the op, it's just old news done to death.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
pardoeofftomexico said:
blueincy said:

But from that article it was Mancini's fault for not taking the opportunity to cash in on Balotelli.
Spot on. We had van Persie lined up for a few months but for FFP reasons RM was told we had to sell a forward before we could finalise the deal. We had offers for Balotelli but he refused to sell so the RVP deal fell through. RM had no one to blame but himself for.

Who sells the players? Not the manager, the CEO does the hiring and Firing does he not ..
So you really think Mancini told Marwood, get me Rodwell and Sinclair that should strengthen the team and push us on to the next level..

Conflicting story? Think I believe Wenger's account of what happened regarding the RVP deal..

http://www1.skysports.com/football/...als-robin-van-persie-rejected-manchester-city
 
Whatever the ins and outs of it, he'll always be my favourite manager. he brought us our first success for decades and the way we won the league will likely never be bettered.

I do understand that some may not have rated him quite a highly as I do/did but I really just don't get those who seem to actually dislike the guy.
 
blueincy said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
pardoeofftomexico said:
But from that article it was Mancini's fault for not taking the opportunity to cash in on Balotelli.
Spot on. We had van Persie lined up for a few months but for FFP reasons RM was told we had to sell a forward before we could finalise the deal. We had offers for Balotelli but he refused to sell so the RVP deal fell through. RM had no one to blame but himself for.

Who sells the players? Not the manager, the CEO does the hiring and Firing does he not ..
So you really think Mancini told Marwood, get me Rodwell and Sinclair that should strengthen the team and push us on to the next level..

Conflicting story? Think I believe Wenger's account of what happened regarding the RVP deal..

http://www1.skysports.com/football/...als-robin-van-persie-rejected-manchester-city

Wenger's account backs up what PB has just said to you. City were interested, but never made a bid, United did and he went there. It's pretty straight forward really.

As for the whole Rodwell/Sinclair/Garcia thing. It's also very simple - Mancini identified the back up targets, nobody else. He wanted Rodwell, he wanted Sinlclair, and he wanted Garcia. He scouted them all using his own right hand man.

Makes me laugh how that summer is always characterised as some machiavellian plan by Khaldoon, Marwood, and co. to buy shit players on purpose so Mancini could have a bad season so they could sack him. Would've been easier/cheaper to just sack him that summer don't you think. Or you think even though they were worried about FFP they spent nearly 60 million on players they knew the manager didn't want, and then gave the same manager a new five year contract ensuring when they did sack him they'd have to give him a bigger pay out too.

Like I say, you have to bury your head pretty deep to believe that kind rubbish.
 

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