Who is your favourite/the greatest human?

Lots of good has come of him too
But as GDM points out, "greatest" needs defining if only for the purposes of this thread.
Lots of good ! Tell that to the choir boys, the orphans, the Cathars. A storyteller whose stories were manipulated to make some select people very rich.
I fully accept we may have needed a ten commandments when there was no real laws or social mores but tell an Irish woman with 15 kids and a church that demands money you havent got each Sunday he was a great man.
 
Disagree about what? Wherever the truth lies about what he said or did, he’s impacted on human history more than pretty much anyone. That cannot be dismissed, irrespective of how his message has been manipulated and exploited since.

Great buildings have been built, territories conquered and wars fought in his name, but you’d rather adopt the story contained in a mildly amusing film from 40 odd years ago as…err… gospel?

Whatever the subsequent forces at work, his life, his message, has discernibly and hugely changed the course of human history. If that doesn’t make someone ‘great’, then I don’t know what does.
I am more inclined to adopt a 40 year old story than believe a story that says he was the son of God.
His life and message ? The story tellers who wrote the Bible picked which stories they would use, any they didn't like were binned.
The various churches that preach to the weak willed have caused millions of people to die, that's why the world changed, not because a carpenter wandered around a desert handing bread and fish out.

Oh and some wine.
 
Lots of good ! Tell that to the choir boys, the orphans, the Cathars. A storyteller whose stories were manipulated to make some select people very rich.
I fully accept we may have needed a ten commandments when there was no real laws or social mores but tell an Irish woman with 15 kids and a church that demands money you havent got each Sunday he was a great man.
It was a cult that took off and has split into so many sub cults and still is splitting and fighting with each other about who’s interpretation of the message is right.
There is a lot of right in the message but a lot of wrong in various interpretations of it and so much wrong done in it’s name.
 
Lots of good ! Tell that to the choir boys, the orphans, the Cathars. A storyteller whose stories were manipulated to make some select people very rich.
I fully accept we may have needed a ten commandments when there was no real laws or social mores but tell an Irish woman with 15 kids and a church that demands money you havent got each Sunday he was a great man.
Think we're at cross purposes.
 

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