Why are we always so poor against Klopp’s Liverpool?

[Chi-town blues]

How do you explain before Pep, or Klopp ?

To pep “You baldy cvnt , prove city fans that you are not a pussy when facing klopp “
To klopp “ you found out pep and he is scared of your heavy metal . Don’t need to attack with three just one is enough. Your job is done here now kindly fuck off back to Germany’’

 

[Corky]

Not the question.

But how many cup draws ?

1 out of 1 in the last 17 years. 2-2 - I would take that.

 

[Mike N]

The boys let us down tonight.

 

[urban genie]

We are poor against any liverpool at anfield.

Klopp has fuck all to do with it

 

[bondsman]

Their midfield is fucking Milner chamberlain and Henderson, the front 3 are excellent. Nulify the front 3 and let them run out of steam and they are bang average.

Agree with this. Utd just went long against their pony back four, by passed the midfield and won easily.

 

[fatbloke]

Pep is stubborn. He won’t change his philosophy or approach. And why should he given the results he achieves. But every team has a style they struggle against. It’s just whether they have the fitness, personnel and often the luck required for it to work.

On one hand I feel Pep has the right approach. Given we will win the league at a canter gives him the licence to play how he wants. But on the other given our record at anfield maybe a more pragmatic approach is preferable. But if we win the league multiple times under Pep but struggle against Liverpool I’ll take it.

Personally I think it was Peps change of style and pragmatism which cost us tonight. It was like he was trying to keep control in central areas but by doing so sacrificed our pace and width which has made us such an attacking threat so far this season.

I genuinely don’t know what was going on in his head but it certainly wasn’t his usual approach.

 

[Neville Kneville]

1 out of 1 in the last 17 years. 2-2 - I would take that.

Perhaps if we sack Pep, we can draw there again one day.

 

[Corky]

Perhaps if we sack Pep, we can draw there again one day.

Amen to that.

 

[Machiavelli]

Hughes, Keegan and Mancini got results there.

You was right, we should’ve sacked him in October 2016 like you said at the time.

 

[ono]

There is nothing better scenario for a high pressing team like Pool getting their approach rewarded by early goal or goals. In a big game like this a quick goal just proves them right, proves their strategy is working and paying off which gives them extra energy to do it mentally as well.

But there is a mental element to this as well as desire, extra workrate otherwise how the fuck they won so many second balls? When there is a cross from us they head it out without looking where and the ball ends up at a Pool player.
Or there is a goal kick, someone heads it and the ball ends up for Liverpool.
They make a shot, Otamendi blocks the ball comes back to a Pool player after a bit of fight for the ball.
We have a corner they clear it and a quick counter from it from them...

If winning second balls would be random it should be 50-50% between teams. I bet Pool tonight won majority of them.

We lost so many of these little fight for the ball. The were quicker, wanted the ball more, they were agressive as well to get it.
These are mental things not tactical ones.

And we have seen this happening at Anfield way before Pep as well and since then as well.

Klopp learnt more from previous games than Pep did. He conceded 5 then won 4-3 but still conceded 3, tonight he got a clean sheet with us 0 shots on target.

We were asking why Pool fans and experts bringing up that 4-3 loss so much but forget about the 5-0 like that doesnt matter? Klopp took the positives from the 4-3 and corrected the negatives of it (defending) and he beat us 3-0.

They win the second ball because they are the team running forward when the block, deflection or ricochet happens.They are good playing a direct pass and then making positive runs off the back of the pass.