Why are we being linked with mid level signings?

citizens_1976 said:
SWP's back said:
citizens_1976 said:
Robin Van Persie is the difference i am afraid.

All i am saying is, last season United bought a world star and they absolutely pissed the league at a canter. United have been doing it for years and have instilled a winning mentality into their side, City haven't. Our expectations aren't as high as United's and this is why i worry, because... if we have a strikeforce of Tevez, Aguero, Balotelli and Dzeko and we still cannot win the league, then what chance do we have with Negredo, Aguero and Dzeko? I just don't rate Negredo, he is not for us, we are better than this. Tevez will be a massive loss to us and we need someone to come in of high quality. Jovetic and Benteke would both do for me. Young, talented and have lots of potential.

Can you really see Aguero, Negredo and Dzeko scoring more goals than Hernandez, Rooney and Van Persie? I don't. I think Van Persie would score more than Dzeko and Negredo put together. We need better, Aguero is a world class player, but he is not on the same shelf as Van Persie in terms of converting chances and being clinical. Aguero missed too many chances last season, Dzeko is good but he cannot be relied on and Negredo like i have said, is just not good enough for us.

Higuain, Soldado, Benteke and Jovetic are MUCH better options.
You totally ignore the rest of the team and the way that a team functions.

Simplistic doesn't even come close to your rationale. And you are getting pissy 2 months before the window closes. This argument should be put on hold for 60 days.

I am not ignoring the team and the way it functions at all, i am just stating that Negredo and players like that will be shit signings for us. Lets learn from last season when we bought Garcia, Maicon and Sinclair, quantity is not needed, quality is though. If we would of not bought Garcia, Sinclair, Maicon, Rodwell last season and kept De Jong and AJ and then used all that money on the Van Persie deal, we WOULD have won the league EASILY. Players like Van Persie make the difference, players like Van Persie win you titles. Players like Negredo will take you nowhere. I am not having a hissyfit and i am not being spoilt in any way shape or form, but we need BETTER than Negredo. He lacks pace, he has a pretty average first touch, the ball tends to bounce off him and he would not be an upgrade on Dzeko physically. Why buy Negredo when we already have a better player in Dzeko?

Like i said, i would much rather we bought Higuain, Soldado, Benteke or Jovetic. Higuain has a better first touch, he is a proven goalscorer and is suited to our style of game, very technical. Soldado is the same, quick, technical and has very good movement off the ball, another very good goalscorer. Benteke has the lot, pace, power, a very good first touch, holds the ball up superbly and can score goals with either foot. Probably the most powerful Premier league striker at the moment and i fully believe he could be a star in years to come. Put it this way, the bigger sides hate playing against him, they are shit scared of him. Jovetic i think should be bought regardless as he can play in numerous positions. Class player who would make up for the loss of Isco.

Say what you want about me playing football manager, but the simple fact is Tevez is a superb player and he will be a huge loss to our side, we need to replace him with quality and not limited footballers like Negredo who aren't even fit to lace Dzeko's boots, never mind Tevez's.

Totally agree with you bud (apart from the bit about Benteke).
 
BoyBlue_1985 said:
hgblue said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
When we started signing genuine stars like Yaya and Silva, which was in the summer of 2010.

Although your post should have had the words "some of" in there. Not everyone's turned into a complete arsehole.

Ironically, the people calling fellow blues complete arseholes because they see things differently, are usually the complete arseholes in my experience.

There are different views and then acting like a 5yr old having a tantrum in a sweat shop because he has been told no after he has been given everything but the last penny sweat left
Like a Nike factory in the far east?
 
hgblue said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
BoyBlue_1985 said:
When did our fans start turning into spoilt fuck wits
When we started signing genuine stars like Yaya and Silva, which was in the summer of 2010.

Although your post should have had the words "some of" in there. Not everyone's turned into a complete arsehole.

Ironically, the people calling fellow blues complete arseholes because they see things differently, are usually the complete arseholes in my experience.
Not sure you've got a grasp on what constitutes irony.
 
SWP's back said:
BoyBlue_1985 said:
hgblue said:
Ironically, the people calling fellow blues complete arseholes because they see things differently, are usually the complete arseholes in my experience.

There are different views and then acting like a 5yr old having a tantrum in a sweat shop because he has been told no after he has been given everything but the last penny sweat left
Like a Nike factory in the far east?
Bollocks you got it before I noticed

Anyway there sweatshops are in south america
 
johnmc said:
citizens_1976 said:
I am not having a hissyfit and i am not being spoilt in any way shape or form, but we need BETTER than Negredo. He lacks pace, he has a pretty average first touch, the ball tends to bounce off him and he would not be an upgrade on Dzeko physically. Why buy Negredo when we already have a better player in Dzeko?

Have we bought Negrado?

The thing is, i am not complaining, i am just stating my opinion that i do not think Negredo is good enough when people have the opinion of that he is good enough for us.

I am happy with both of our signings this summer, but all i am saying is that we need to back it up now by going out there and buying a top quality striker. Maybe all this talk with other strikers are agents trying to talk up a move for their players. I fully believe that Fred and Cardozo are not on our list, but i am unsure on Negredo. With him being Spanish, i could see him being bought, i hope not anyway. If we buy Spanish, much rather we bought Soldado who is far better.
 
BoyBlue_1985 said:
samharris said:
BoyBlue_1985 said:
When did our fans start turning into spoilt fuck wits

Sept 1st 2008.

No it wasnt right then im thinking it must of been around 2010/11 time

We bought Robinho that day and broke the transfer record.. that was the catalyst for some of the fuckwittery that we now see.
 
citizens_1976 said:
johnmc said:
citizens_1976 said:
I am not having a hissyfit and i am not being spoilt in any way shape or form, but we need BETTER than Negredo. He lacks pace, he has a pretty average first touch, the ball tends to bounce off him and he would not be an upgrade on Dzeko physically. Why buy Negredo when we already have a better player in Dzeko?

Have we bought Negrado?

The thing is, i am not complaining, i am just stating my opinion that i do not think Negredo is good enough when people have the opinion of that he is good enough for us.

I am happy with both of our signings this summer, but all i am saying is that we need to back it up now by going out there and buying a top quality striker. Maybe all this talk with other strikers are agents trying to talk up a move for their players. I fully believe that Fred and Cardozo are not on our list, but i am unsure on Negredo. With him being Spanish, i could see him being bought, i hope not anyway. If we buy Spanish, much rather we bought Soldado who is far better.

The 'we're turning into spoilt brats' merchants will be all over you like a rash, but keep up the good work mate ;). If it's any concillation, they were saying the same stuff to anyone who dared suggest Sinclair wasn't good enough last summer.
 
citizens_1976 said:
johnmc said:
citizens_1976 said:
I am not having a hissyfit and i am not being spoilt in any way shape or form, but we need BETTER than Negredo. He lacks pace, he has a pretty average first touch, the ball tends to bounce off him and he would not be an upgrade on Dzeko physically. Why buy Negredo when we already have a better player in Dzeko?

Have we bought Negrado?

The thing is, i am not complaining, i am just stating my opinion that i do not think Negredo is good enough when people have the opinion of that he is good enough for us.

I am happy with both of our signings this summer, but all i am saying is that we need to back it up now by going out there and buying a top quality striker. Maybe all this talk with other strikers are agents trying to talk up a move for their players. I fully believe that Fred and Cardozo are not on our list, but i am unsure on Negredo. With him being Spanish, i could see him being bought, i hope not anyway. If we buy Spanish, much rather we bought Soldado who is far better.
Negredo scored one more in the league than Soldado last season. 24 for Soldado and 25 for Negredo. Not checked previous seasons, just a quick check on the last campaign, though I acknowledge Soldado bagged a few in the CL too.
 

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