Why does Aguero play poorly alongside Balotelli?

redmizzle said:
Nelly's Left Foot said:
So it's just an age thing then is it? No arguments that he doesn't have a very poor touch,doesnt work hard for the team and has very limited movement plus looks like being sent off every game. Says it all really that you are just a Mario fan without seeming to have any real footballing reasons for it.

And although he is only 21 that's not exactly that young is it.If he was 17 I could slightly understand.He is 21 already and I don't think his game is going to develop to anything close to what we need.

Nelly's left foot, don't let this debate degenerate into nonsense.

It's not exclusively an age thing, it's an experience and development thing that comes with playing more games and growing up. It has nothing to do with whether you like him or not, absolutely fuck all. Professionals who are in a better position than you think he can develop more so forgive me if I value their opinions over yours.


The nonsense seems to be that you are not saying anything to counter my comments about the player apart from he is young and as I say 21 is not so young. I can only assume you agree that he is lacking in much of the basics he needs but believe he will develop them when he gets older and matures.

I know he will get older but I don't think he will develop the necessary skills.As for him maturing I live in hope but to date he has gone the other way.
 
Nelly's Left Foot said:
redmizzle said:
Nelly's Left Foot said:
So it's just an age thing then is it? No arguments that he doesn't have a very poor touch,doesnt work hard for the team and has very limited movement plus looks like being sent off every game. Says it all really that you are just a Mario fan without seeming to have any real footballing reasons for it.

And although he is only 21 that's not exactly that young is it.If he was 17 I could slightly understand.He is 21 already and I don't think his game is going to develop to anything close to what we need.

Nelly's left foot, don't let this debate degenerate into nonsense.

It's not exclusively an age thing, it's an experience and development thing that comes with playing more games and growing up. It has nothing to do with whether you like him or not, absolutely fuck all. Professionals who are in a better position than you think he can develop more so forgive me if I value their opinions over yours.


The nonsense seems to be that you are not saying anything to counter my comments about the player apart from he is young and as I say 21 is not so young. I can only assume you agree that he is lacking in much of the basics he needs but believe he will develop them when he gets older and matures.

I know he will get older but I don't think he will develop the necessary skills.As for him maturing I live in hope but to date he has gone the other way.

See, that wasn't too difficult to understand was it? Without the ''oh, it's only because you like him'' nonsense. Also, gaining experience by playing is a very important thing that cannot be understated, not just growing in age.

I believe you over exaggerate what you perceive as his faults on the pitch. He's never going to run around as much as Tevez so if that what you're expecting, he will never be good enough for you. His work rate this season compared to last season has improved but can still get better. He makes intelligent runs most of the time that aren't picked up. He can improve his temperament on the pitch but referees are also harsh on him. His first touch is nowhere near as bad as you're claiming either.
 
Damocles said:
Such a strange thread

Aguero plays a different position when Tevez is in the team. With Balo or Dzeko he plays behind them and drops into midfield. When Tevez plays, he does this and Aguero plays up front

Aguero doesn't always play behind Balotelli. Often Balotelli is out wide on the left (which doesnt usually make for a great goal scoring partnership). Sometimes Balotelli will play 2nd striker eg Blackburn (h) behind Aguero.

I've often thought that the way that the two players are given varying roles in the "partnership" might be one reason why they havent really gelled.

Ironically I think one reason why the Tevez-Aguero partnership is working well might be because Tevez isnt fully fit. He's happy playing a bit deeper at the moment giving short passes rather than running at defenders as he normally does. They're not both chasing the same balls which might be the case if Tevez were fully fit.
 
redmizzle said:
He (Balo) can improve his temperament on the pitch but referees are also harsh on him.

hehe
Referees have been harsh on City, but not on Balo.
Last match he played I would have given him a red card just for his first fault.
He deserved it. The referee just showed him a yellow one.

(And I really rate Balo. Never seen a striker so gifted to play in any position in the field.)
 
From what I've seen this season (counting only the partnerships we DID deploy), from best to worst:

1. Tevez - Aguero
2. Dzeko - Aguero
3. Aguero - Balotelli
4. Dzeko - Balotelli (this one hasnt produced a fucking goal I think).

Sounds about right?
 
Nelly's Left Foot said:
GreekBlue said:
cibaman said:
I think Balotelli's problem is his poor movement rather than laziness or greediness.

personally think balotellis movement is the best in the team... the team just does not pic ihm out enough...

I think his problem is that one he has to many peopel telling him he's to good, going to be best in world, this and that, and is getting to his head. He is no humble and needs discipline. Maybe Roberto must bring him to bench to make him work for starting role again....


City want to play a short passing game which involves a good touch and good movement. Aguero,Silva,Nasri,Yaya,Milner and now Tevez thrive on it.

Mario has neither a good touch not good movement.To suggest his movement is the best in the team is naive beyond belief.Sure I can remember times when he has moved into a good position but for the majority of times he just doesnt fit in with the way the rest of the team move and think.

And strangely for such a gifted player his first touch and ability to join iin with the short quick passing is very limited.That's partly where the selfishness comes in as he tends to want to shoot from wherever he is but also simply because he struggles massively to make the short passes.
Joke of the day....LOL
 
Plain Speaking said:
Mario plays for himself not the team. Hence his obsession with "always me."
He fights with team mates so he can take the free kick and shoots from long distances when other better options exist.
Frequently he is immature and doesnt consider the best option for the team. A talented individual but not a team player.
agree, fails to understand the concept that he is a servant of the club and demands that the team plays for him
 
Nelly's Left Foot said:
redmizzle said:
Nelly's Left Foot said:
So it's just an age thing then is it? No arguments that he doesn't have a very poor touch,doesnt work hard for the team and has very limited movement plus looks like being sent off every game. Says it all really that you are just a Mario fan without seeming to have any real footballing reasons for it.

And although he is only 21 that's not exactly that young is it.If he was 17 I could slightly understand.He is 21 already and I don't think his game is going to develop to anything close to what we need.

Nelly's left foot, don't let this debate degenerate into nonsense.

It's not exclusively an age thing, it's an experience and development thing that comes with playing more games and growing up. It has nothing to do with whether you like him or not, absolutely fuck all. Professionals who are in a better position than you think he can develop more so forgive me if I value their opinions over yours.


The nonsense seems to be that you are not saying anything to counter my comments about the player apart from he is young and as I say 21 is not so young. I can only assume you agree that he is lacking in much of the basics he needs but believe he will develop them when he gets older and matures.

I know he will get older but I don't think he will develop the necessary skills.As for him maturing I live in hope but to date he has gone the other way.

Nelly's left.....whatever....you are displaying a typical football fans ability to ignore common sense and see any chink of light from the world of reality.

He's had a very very disappointing few months, his touch has deserted him on numerous instances over that period agreed and he does not look too great of player in that time - all agreed. But that is a bad run of form, not helped by his attitude problems etc..........(do you really need me to go into all that crap? No? - didn't think so, so will stop ha ha). People on here did the very same thing your doing now with Tevez - "he cannot play as part of a team, link up play no good"
- a complete and utter deluded overreaction to the situation. Now your doing the same with Mario - skills not up to top level, movement not good....your having a laugh - he is out of form and in need of an attitude adjustment (agreed on the working hard for the team) but to say he's not capable is absurd - utterly absurd.

Maybe he will never come good - can agree....but he has a chance of being great and I think we have to stick by him for another season but I hope he gets dropped a few more times when needed this time.
 

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