Why doesn't the bible mention dinosaurs?

tonea2003 said:
Damocles said:
I'll say one thing.

A creator God figure DEFINITELY exists in current scientific theory. Not probably, not possibly, definitely.

The current idea of the creation of the Universe is centred around the notion of a multiverse; that is, an infinite amount of Universes where every possible event has occurred.

Due to this, there must be at least one Universe somewhere in which a creator God has existed, just as there must be a Universe where the simplest elements of creation are Uranium and Plutonium.

We just have to figure out if that Universe is ours :-)
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just let me get this right, a creator god as a concept not that it definitely exists in one form or another.
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If the multiverse theory is correct then a creator must necessarily exist in at least one universe.
 
Skashion said:
tonea2003 said:
just let me get this right, a creator god as a concept not that it definitely exists in one form or another.
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If the multiverse theory is correct then a creator must necessarily exist in at least one universe.
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must read up a bit more on this, not getting why it must be in a multiverse and not necessary in a single universe.
 
chestervegasblue said:
Markt85 said:
Good post and respect to you ...

just a couple of questions -

do you beleive in heaven and hell ? and if someone doesn't abide by the rules of the bible they go to hell ?

if so, i want to know - does this apply to all Mammals ? i mean, were the same as as monkeys, lion etc , so when they go round killing, stealing from other mammals are they disobeying the bible or is it just Humans that go to hell

... Probably a really naff question, but just something i pondered whilst im eating my cheese roll
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I do believe in Heaven and Hell. The thing is, if someone commits to Jesus and is genuinely sorry, they could've broken every single "rule" in the Bible. Getting into heaven isn't the result of anything that we do...it's all God's grace.

But people do go to eternal punishment in hell, because they are make the informed decision not to follow Jesus. If it's true, it's not going to be that when people get to judgement day and they recognise Jesus on the throne that they're going to be surprised that they're going to hell...they'll realise they made the wrong choice. But God still respects that choice that we make in life, because if he didn't, and everyone went to heaven regardless, we'd have no free will.

As for animals, I honestly don't know. They, like plants, serve a purpose on earth, and we have dominion over them.
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We have dominion over them? WTF? Aren't ALL Gods creatures equal? That is pretentious bollocks.
 
chestervegasblue said:
Thanks Damocles. On the scientific method question...can you actually prove anything absolutely? You can say that every time you let go of something it will fall to the floor because gravity is scientifically proven to always occur. But what if one day it didn't happen...the proven scientific theory of gravity as we know it would no longer be complete fact, right? Things are "proven" within the limits of what we know. People used to believe that the earth was flat because you never went upside down when you were sailing somewhere.
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Imagine that you are in an empty field with just you, and God stood next to you. God tells you that "chestervegasblue is destined to be the man who finds Eden". You know of Eden as a place of great beauty and pure perfection. Due to this, you start walking through the empty field searching for this place.

You get to a quaint little town. There's no technology, no signs and you don't speak the local language. You wonder whether or not this is Eden and realise that you have no way of judging this. Therefore, you invent a checklist to determine the "Eden-ness" of a place:

1. Is it named Eden?
2. Is it beautiful and lush?
3. Is it the best place you have ever visited?

You don't know what this town is called, so number 1 isn't met. The language isn't your language, so it doesn't really fit your view of perfection and though it is strikingly pretty, you wouldn't call it beautiful. It is certainly better than the last place (the empty field) though, so you declare that this is the closest that you have found to Eden. You rejoice in this and you quest is over. After a few years of enjoying Eden, you talk to a traveller in a pub who tells you of another town, that has nicer buildings, cleaner water and better people.

Eventually, you wander on to the next town and determine its Eden-ness, discovering that this is a better fit than the last Eden. Due to this, the last town is renamed "not Eden" and you give the new town the name "Eden". You spend some time here, and you meet more travellers. They tell you of another town, more beautiful, more precious, more perfect than this. Again, you get on your travels to the newest town. After arriving here, you look at your checklist to rate the Eden-ness of the new town and determine that it was a waste of your time, as this town had sewage running through the streets, unlike your last home. You call the new discovered town "not Eden" and travel back to your current "Eden".

The pattern continues, with you travelling around towns, naming the best fit as "Eden" and renaming the old ones as "not Eden".

You keep wandering, so far that you go all the way around the globe and get back to the lonely field in the presence of God. God asks you if you have found Eden yet, and you tell him the whole story. The numerous travels, the towns, and the travellers. Eventually, when you mention the checklist of Eden-ness, God asks to see it. Upon reading it, He laughs out loud and says "My Son, your checklist is incorrect. Number 2 should read "is it beautiful, green and lush"".

Armed with this new information, you again start walking around the world, visiting every town again to rank it against your newly correct checklist. Just as the last time, every time you find a new town that tops the ranks of Eden-ness, you rejoice and stop looking as surely now you have found the real Eden. Upon seeing you again and hearing your story, you pick up some followers who are also looking for Eden, using this new checklist and disagree that this town is the best fit, so you must rank the town just down the road a bit. Eventually, you all end up with God AGAIN.

"My Sons, your checklist is incorrect. Beautiful is such a subjective term that many men disagree upon. A group will never find Eden this way, you must use the words "full of one off scenery and architecture". Armed with this new information, you and the travellers travel to every town again, always claiming the current Eden as the true Eden. Interestingly, towns that used to be "not Eden" now have more "Eden-ness" than towns that used to be called "Eden" as the criteria has changed and become easier to evaluate.

Of course, you and the travellers end up back with God, again and again, each time changing the checklist to become less subjective and more accurate. But you keep on travelling and visit every town in term to find the true Eden. Some claim that they have already found the true Eden because they have found old versions of the checklist that you used many laps ago, thus claim their own town as Eden. They know this beyond all doubt, as their checklist matches their town perfectly, even if yours doesn't.

As an old and tired man, you eventually approach God again in that empty field. You say to him "Lord, I have travelled for many years to fulfil my destiny as the man who discovers Eden. MY checklist is now perfect, surely my current "Eden" is the real Eden?"

God takes a look at the checklist again and this is what he sees:

1. Is it named Eden?
2. Does it possess evergreen trees, landmark scenery and clean air?
3. Is it the best place you have ever visited?

He says, "I never said the place is currently called Eden, change number 1 to "Does it have nice weather?".

Eventually, your great, great, great grandson also called chestervegasblue, finds Eden. He used a checklist with 166 conditions, worded in a way that nobody can fail to agree with the answers to them.

Then his son proves that God doesn't exist.

This is pretty much how all of science works.
 
Kirkstall Blue said:
He is right we do dominate the animal kingdom we have intelligence and education. So I think we are superior in that our destiny is in our own hands. "unlike the dinosaurs"
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Ants and bees for example have shown intelligence, just because they haven't got TV's, laptops etc doesn't make them any less intelligent in their own right.
 
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