squirtyflower
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I blame the fans, sorry customers.
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Why haven’t Manchester City become the "super club" they should be?
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CrownPointBlue
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Waited 4 years for Pep.
Glad he's here but we've been on hold & he's only signed a 3 year deal !!
1 down 2 to go.
Tempts Fugit.
Glad he's here but we've been on hold & he's only signed a 3 year deal !!
1 down 2 to go.
Tempts Fugit.
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JRB , you ask a very good question , well said or well asked .
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IMHO the trophy haul against the investment shows we have underachieved. No hiding from it
The reasons are complex: FFP, managerial changes, more money in the prem, etc etc
Primarily though we have:
(1) Over-paid for players (Santa Cruz, Bony, Fernando, Mangala, Bravo spring to mind....there will be others)
(2) Not been able to move players on for reasonable money (Nolito prospective sale for a 9mil loss in 1 season as an example....there ill be others)
(3) Persistently not addressed glaring holes in the squad (how long is it since we've spent money of a fullback
No.3 is the big issue for me
The reasons are complex: FFP, managerial changes, more money in the prem, etc etc
Primarily though we have:
(1) Over-paid for players (Santa Cruz, Bony, Fernando, Mangala, Bravo spring to mind....there will be others)
(2) Not been able to move players on for reasonable money (Nolito prospective sale for a 9mil loss in 1 season as an example....there ill be others)
(3) Persistently not addressed glaring holes in the squad (how long is it since we've spent money of a fullback
No.3 is the big issue for me
CelesteItis
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Financial Fair Play, biased refereeing, turgid and overtly negative media coverage, football governing bodies protecting the status quo.
When considering all the factors conspired against us, what we have achieved is nothing short of remarkable.
CelesteItis
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This!Yes we won the title with Pellers. But let's be honest, if it wasn't for a Liverpool collapse at the end of the season we wouldn't have won the title.
Is Utter Bollocks! fucking super club candlewanks still hurting, eh?
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The money we've wasted & the opportunities we've missed since then put Bobbies management style into a much clearer perspective.
So does the career path of those who have,or would've left. Hart,Lescott,Richards,Mario,Johnson,Nigel Nasri etc etc.
Some of the others might have had their egos bruised but would never had found better contracts even if the club agreed to transfer them.
The club were intimidated by Bobbys success & popularity & what impact that could've had on their long game pursuit of Pep.
How many fans wanted Bobby sacked on the Thursday before the Wigan final ???
Joe Hart stabbed Bobby in the back by demanding a transfer in mid week if Bobby stuck with Pants in goal. There was some treacherous behaviour that week.
Every manager we've had since has wanted rid of Hart. The club want rid so much they'll even let him go to the rags.
Bobby was undermined,betrayed & stabbed in the back by people who owed him an enormous debt of gratitude.
Disgraceful.
Forsa Mancini !!
So does the career path of those who have,or would've left. Hart,Lescott,Richards,Mario,Johnson,Nigel Nasri etc etc.
Some of the others might have had their egos bruised but would never had found better contracts even if the club agreed to transfer them.
The club were intimidated by Bobbys success & popularity & what impact that could've had on their long game pursuit of Pep.
How many fans wanted Bobby sacked on the Thursday before the Wigan final ???
Joe Hart stabbed Bobby in the back by demanding a transfer in mid week if Bobby stuck with Pants in goal. There was some treacherous behaviour that week.
Every manager we've had since has wanted rid of Hart. The club want rid so much they'll even let him go to the rags.
Bobby was undermined,betrayed & stabbed in the back by people who owed him an enormous debt of gratitude.
Disgraceful.
Forsa Mancini !!
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what a load of shit, another reason to be negative press... Whats good, whats big, whats nice whats super ?
If we won the Pl three years on the run and smashed a few trophies it would be boring, cant do right. City are one of the big boys, its not just trophies in the cabinet, you look at the bigger picture and ffs I don't mean attendance which is another disillusioned stat !
This project backed by our owners that don't just sit there taking money or failing to invest, is long term not just 6 years.
A super club club like Bayern / Real / Barca ( there is not a current English club that touches those 3 over the last 10 years ) can only be judged over a long period of time. I look at the turn around at city from the Mancini days, since then few in England better our stats and "nobody" has facilities across all boards as good as ours. Another thing, ive f'ing enjoyed every season since mancini became manager, it has been fantastic so who gives a toss what some reporter or wanabee punter thinks !
If we won the Pl three years on the run and smashed a few trophies it would be boring, cant do right. City are one of the big boys, its not just trophies in the cabinet, you look at the bigger picture and ffs I don't mean attendance which is another disillusioned stat !
This project backed by our owners that don't just sit there taking money or failing to invest, is long term not just 6 years.
A super club club like Bayern / Real / Barca ( there is not a current English club that touches those 3 over the last 10 years ) can only be judged over a long period of time. I look at the turn around at city from the Mancini days, since then few in England better our stats and "nobody" has facilities across all boards as good as ours. Another thing, ive f'ing enjoyed every season since mancini became manager, it has been fantastic so who gives a toss what some reporter or wanabee punter thinks !
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what a load of shit, another reason to be negative press... Whats good, whats big, whats nice whats super ?
If we won the Pl three years on the run and smashed a few trophies it would be boring, cant do right. City are one of the big boys, its not just trophies in the cabinet, you look at the bigger picture and ffs I don't mean attendance which is another disillusioned stat !
This project backed by our owners that don't just sit there taking money or failing to invest, is long term not just 6 years.
A super club club like Bayern / Real / Barca ( there is not a current English club that touches those 3 over the last 10 years ) can only be judged over a long period of time. I look at the turn around at city from the Mancini days, since then few in England better our stats and "nobody" has facilities across all boards as good as ours. Another thing, ive f'ing enjoyed every season since mancini became manager, it has been fantastic so who gives a toss what some reporter or wanabee punter thinks !
What article are you referring to Trevor ?
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what a load of shit, another reason to be negative press... Whats good, whats big, whats nice whats super ?
If we won the Pl three years on the run and smashed a few trophies it would be boring, cant do right. City are one of the big boys, its not just trophies in the cabinet, you look at the bigger picture and ffs I don't mean attendance which is another disillusioned stat !
This project backed by our owners that don't just sit there taking money or failing to invest, is long term not just 6 years.
A super club club like Bayern / Real / Barca ( there is not a current English club that touches those 3 over the last 10 years ) can only be judged over a long period of time. I look at the turn around at city from the Mancini days, since then few in England better our stats and "nobody" has facilities across all boards as good as ours. Another thing, ive f'ing enjoyed every season since mancini became manager, it has been fantastic so who gives a toss what some reporter or wanabee punter thinks !
Superb post mate.