Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

[Mr Ed (The Stables)]

The one good thing to hang on to is that Roberto will not let the fact he signed anyone blind him to the reality of how it works out on the pitch, he certainly moved Savic and Botang on pdq when it became apparent they did not fit in.

I do think Garcia has been a let down for his plans, on paper he looked to have replaced NDJ with a similar type of ball winner but with a far better range of both passing and threat in the air, true he does not seem to have settled in so far, but his past history points to him being a good player so maybe worth allowing a little more time.

Rodwell and Sinclair are more for the future, I would have signed neither, but then I don't get Roberto's pay packet and trust he knows what he`s doing.

On the plus side Nasty looks to be a cracking buy, and for me addresses a major weakness the defense had with Lescott playing.


Forza Roberto

Good post. There is a reason that Mancini is paid the big bucks and not us.

Some might say playing "Devils Advocate" that Mancini has under performed, as we are now out of every competition we entered and only realistically have the FA Cup now to play for, and that hasn't even started yet. I personally think he is under tremendous pressure, lose at Newcastle which isn't a disgrace by any means and suddenly a 6 point gap becomes a 9 point gap. Just food for thought!!

 

[moomba]

The one good thing to hang on to is that Roberto will not let the fact he signed anyone blind him to the reality of how it works out on the pitch, he certainly moved Savic and Botang on pdq when it became apparent they did not fit in.

I do think Garcia has been a let down for his plans, on paper he looked to have replaced NDJ with a similar type of ball winner but with a far better range of both passing and threat in the air, true he does not seem to have settled in so far, but his past history points to him being a good player so maybe worth allowing a little more time.

Rodwell and Sinclair are more for the future, I would have signed neither, but then I don't get Roberto's pay packet and trust he knows what he`s doing.

On the plus side Nasty looks to be a cracking buy, and for me addresses a major weakness the defense had with Lescott playing.


Forza Roberto

Good post. There is a reason that Mancini is paid the big bucks and not us.

Some might say playing "Devils Advocate" that Mancini has under performed, as we are now out of every competition we entered and only realistically have the FA Cup now to play for, and that hasn't even started yet. I personally think he is under tremendous pressure, lose at Newcastle which isn't a disgrace by any means and suddenly a 6 point gap becomes a 9 point gap. Just food for thought!!

Are we out of the league now?

8 points behind with 6 matches to go, short memories.

 

[Anonymous]

The one good thing to hang on to is that Roberto will not let the fact he signed anyone blind him to the reality of how it works out on the pitch, he certainly moved Savic and Botang on pdq when it became apparent they did not fit in.

I do think Garcia has been a let down for his plans, on paper he looked to have replaced NDJ with a similar type of ball winner but with a far better range of both passing and threat in the air, true he does not seem to have settled in so far, but his past history points to him being a good player so maybe worth allowing a little more time.

Rodwell and Sinclair are more for the future, I would have signed neither, but then I don't get Roberto's pay packet and trust he knows what he`s doing.

On the plus side Nasty looks to be a cracking buy, and for me addresses a major weakness the defense had with Lescott playing.


Forza Roberto

Good post. There is a reason that Mancini is paid the big bucks and not us.

Some might say playing "Devils Advocate" that Mancini has under performed, as we are now out of every competition we entered and only realistically have the FA Cup now to play for, and that hasn't even started yet. I personally think he is under tremendous pressure, lose at Newcastle which isn't a disgrace by any means and suddenly a 6 point gap becomes a 9 point gap. Just food for thought!!

Edit - just seen the post above - d'oh!

 

[Chippy_boy]

Good post. There is a reason that Mancini is paid the big bucks and not us.

Some might say playing "Devils Advocate" that Mancini has under performed, as we are now out of every competition we entered and only realistically have the FA Cup now to play for, and that hasn't even started yet. I personally think he is under tremendous pressure, lose at Newcastle which isn't a disgrace by any means and suddenly a 6 point gap becomes a 9 point gap. Just food for thought!!

Are we out of the league now?

8 points behind with 6 matches to go, short memories.

We are not out of the league (just yet), I agree. But we soon could be.

First of all, last year's situation was not something to be relied upon. I don't see the rags making the same mistake twice. The Everton 4-4 was a freaky result (not least in that Moyes didn't just hand over the points as per normal). The Wigan result arguably even more freaky.

And then yes they had an 8 point lead, but realistically more like 5 when you consider they had to come to us and we were playing damned well by then and our place is a fortress.

If we go to -9 after this weekend, I think we have had it. Just think about this: They would have to drop 10 points *more* than we drop, and we have to go to the swamp as well. And they have played lots of tough games already. 3 or 4 random losses from them all on days when we win? And no random dropped points from us on days when they win? Nah.

Lose on Saturday and the season is finished.

 

[Anonymous]

Some might say playing "Devils Advocate" that Mancini has under performed, as we are now out of every competition we entered and only realistically have the FA Cup now to play for, and that hasn't even started yet. I personally think he is under tremendous pressure, lose at Newcastle which isn't a disgrace by any means and suddenly a 6 point gap becomes a 9 point gap. Just food for thought!!

Are we out of the league now?

8 points behind with 6 matches to go, short memories.

Of course we are not out of the league (yet), I agree.

But to be fair, last year's situation was not something to be relied upon. I don't see the rags making the same mistake twice. The Everton 4-4 was a freaky result (not least in that Moyes didn't just hand over the points as per normal). The Wigan result arguably even more freaky.

And then yes it was 8 points, but realistically more like 5 when you consider they had to come to us and we were playing damned well by then and our place is a fortress.

If we go to -9 after this weekend, that will be an enormous hill to climb to overhaul them. Just think about that: They would have to drop 10 points *more* than we drop, and we have to go to the swamp as well.

Lose on Saturday and the season is lost, imho.

Do you think the Everton, Tottenham and Norwich results this season were all freaky results? What about them conceding 5 goals in their last two league games, with a defeat to a Romanian side sandwiched in between?

For someone with 4800 posts on a City forum, you don't half seem to spend a lot of time defending the rags.

From what I have seen of them so far this season, I could just as easily see them putting an unbeaten run together as I could see them losing 3 on the spin. They have some serious work to do to maintain what they have - not saying they can't complete that work, but there is a lot to be done nonetheless.

It would be churlish to write us off at this stage even at 9 points behind should we lose to Newcastle on Saturday given we have less games to play overall now we are out of Europe entirely, giving us better post game recovery and a January transfer window to come.

 

[Matty]

As with any manager Mancini sometimes frustrates the shit out of me with his tactics and his approach to certain games. Our European form was down in some part certainly to the approach we took. We played at such a mind numbingly slow pace during those games that it made it very easy the oppostition to get set and deal with us. When you're having to get past Caldwell at Wigan, or Vlaar at Villa you can allow the opposition to get set, but when it's Hummels and Pepe you need to make them react and think far more quickly.

The derby was also a case of mistaken tactics. United are different to most teams in that they still play in a very "old school" manner. Modern football has become more about short passes, getting a player between the midfield and defence and playing through the middle. With Valencia, Young and Nani United have 3 out and out wingers, they play wide, attack the fullbacks, and deliver crosses. We played without a recognised left sided midfielder against United, which exposed Clichy. All 3 goals came from that side (albeit the third Clichy should have dealt with). We generally play without a left sided player as such, but against United surely it would have made sense to tweak the formation slightly to provide more cover, given the way United would invariably play?

I'm not saying we should sack Mancini, far from it. What we do need to do however is address Europe, as it hasn't worked at all as yet. We can't afford a third season of Champion's League abject failure, if we do then I can see that being Mancini's downfall.

 

[moomba]

First of all, last year's situation was not something to be relied upon. I don't see the rags making the same mistake twice. The Everton 4-4 was a freaky result (not least in that Moyes didn't just hand over the points as per normal). The Wigan result arguably even more freaky.

And then yes they had an 8 point lead, but realistically more like 5 when you consider they had to come to us and we were playing damned well by then and our place is a fortress.

If we go to -9 after this weekend, I think we have had it. Just think about this: They would have to drop 10 points *more* than we drop, and we have to go to the swamp as well. And they have played lots of tough games already. 3 or 4 random losses from them all on days when we win? And no random dropped points from us on days when they win? Nah.

Lose on Saturday and the season is finished.

People talk about us going 9 down after the weekend. We could also be 3 down. With a game against them at a ground we won 1-6 last season to come.

To write off the season, even if we lose on the weekend is foolish IMO.

 

[blueonblue]

When looking at where we are now its worth remembering just how short a time Roberto has assembled the team in, and the constraints of having so many poor signings on silly money and long contracts thanks to the clueless c*nt he replaced.

We are victims of being over reliant on certain players because it takes maybe four years to build a squad that can cover all positions in case of injury, do you think the derby would have gone the same way with Milner playing as an example ?.
We struggle if Silva has a bad game or is out, yet to date have no other creative play maker because they are as rare as rocking horse sh*te, though there are several promising kids starting to come up through the ranks.

Nor can we send Ya ya rampaging forwards if the midfield is under pressure because then he has to fill the DM role, with Milner and Rodwell injured and Garcia not yet bedded into English football its another area that needs refining.

Over the next two years Roberto will fine tune what is the basis of a great team, at times he is restricted as to the tactics he can use simply because the type of player needed to make them work is not available, and maybe he will have to try more than once to get the right players in if they don't work out as can happen sometimes...........But now above all its time to have a bit of faith in him.


Forza Roberto

 

[Chippy_boy]

Are we out of the league now?

8 points behind with 6 matches to go, short memories.

Of course we are not out of the league (yet), I agree.

But to be fair, last year's situation was not something to be relied upon. I don't see the rags making the same mistake twice. The Everton 4-4 was a freaky result (not least in that Moyes didn't just hand over the points as per normal). The Wigan result arguably even more freaky.

And then yes it was 8 points, but realistically more like 5 when you consider they had to come to us and we were playing damned well by then and our place is a fortress.

If we go to -9 after this weekend, that will be an enormous hill to climb to overhaul them. Just think about that: They would have to drop 10 points *more* than we drop, and we have to go to the swamp as well.

Lose on Saturday and the season is lost, imho.

For someone with 4800 posts on a City forum, you don't half seem to spend a lot of time defending the rags.

And you seem incapable of taking the blue-tinted specs off.

By the way, where on earth have I been praising the rags? I loathe them. But unfortunately history shows us that normally and very very irritatingly, they deliver the goods. Last year's finale would not have been so spectacular if they normally fuck up. Normally, they don't.

 

[Nasty Nastasic]

Although the though of Guardiola managing us is not a horrible one we already have a world class manager who just won the league, to even think about sacking him would be madness, we can see the trouble chopping and changing managers gives you at Chelsea.