Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

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Re: Robertos glaring mistakes

Providing they come in occasionally I actually don't mind Milner and Nasri on the wings. Thought they had some great moments today especially Milner.
 
Re: Robertos glaring mistakes

Chill Daniel Son, will probably get merged, then you can stop spitting your dummy..

Danielmanc said:
allyboy said:
I have supported Bobby from day 1 and still do. But if he keeps screwing this up, Wigan will pip us at Wembley and he will lose his job.

1. Nasri and Milner are not wingers. If you want the the best out of these 2, they have play more centrally. Nasri is a great player who has never really been given the 'Silva role" as he's put too far wide. He's extremely one footed- so if defenders want to show him on his left, hes screwed.

Milner is with Tevez, our most industrious player. again wasted out wide. To me, he's a genuine box to box true midfielder who would plug that gap when Yaya goes forward and would give cover to Barry.

2. Yaya was out on his feet today. He is useless in a holding role when not in peek condition. Players glide past him. He needs to play much further forward.
But Bobby won't take him off. Even Garcia would have done better today and that's saying something!, Make the change for gods sake, he's not untouchable, new contract or not!!

3. Why does he never move Komps into Midfield when its so obvious the middle of the park is being lost. Get Lescott on, take yaya off if not performing and get Komps forward. Bobby has to gamble a bit more when that happens.

4. Dzeko and Kolarov are not technically gifted enough for our style of football. end of.

5. Why put Kun on the bench if you're not going to use him?, especially watching Dzeko play like a 2 year old. Bizarre.

Sort it Bobby, and sort it quick otherwise this season and you're job will end in the bin.

And you really needed to start a new thread ? The fact that you know better than Mancini deserves a thread all of its own rather than being in the existing Mancini thread(s) ?
<br /><br />-- Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:19 am --<br /><br />Just don't think they should be given such a restrictive area to operate in, Nasri okay floating a bit, but Milner who I rate highly could secure up the midfield with his work rate..


citymad said:
Providing they come in occasionally I actually don't mind Milner and Nasri on the wings. Thought they had some great moments today especially Milner.
 
Re: Robertos glaring mistakes

It pains me to say it but the guy is clueless, today we effectively had no manager.

How many times has he been made to look like a Muppet. Bayern last season, I still think Mancini rubbed everyone up that day, not excusing tevezs actions.

Kompany's injury in which it took him the best part of 10 minutes to make a substitution. Meanwhile back room staff are flapping with no avail on the sidelines

Today the match just passing him by, totally unable to make a decision on how to combat spuds new threat.

Obviously having kolliwobbles and dzeko on the same pitch was always going to be like playing with 9 men, I said when Kolorov came on, we've lost this.

None of this mentions how many times he's changed formations in a match to lose a goal and revert back to original formation, when the chips are down Mancini can't change anything to react and often doesn't see things. I felt we were lucky against Chelsea last weekend.

These are not knee jerk reactions like the Mancini inners would say but we have been on a steady decking since Dec 2011 with no answers from the man at the helm. He has brought success to the club which I thank him for(more the owners) but we cannot stagnate in this he's a hero and he can do no wrong mentality. We are not the same club as 10 years ago, we need to progress.

To do this we need a manager who can read the game, can motivate a team and can make worthwhile tactical amendments attuned to our players skillset. We need a manager who can adapt and quickly, in stark contrast we have a rigid manager bringing his stubborn totalitarian attitude and an inability to learn from mistakes.

Today my blood pressure went through the roof watching such ineffective management I nearly had a coronary.
 
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Agreed, I was more annoyed with him as I've ever been. Think Rigid is the correct word, you could see the game falling apart just like Chelsea where we managed to hang on. Bit Hughes-like today which worries me big time.

Jaffamandango said:
It pains me to say it but the guy is clueless, today we effectively had no manager.

How many times has he been made to look like a Muppet. Bayern last season, I still think Mancini rubbed everyone up that day, not excusing tevezs actions.

Kompany's injury in which it took him the best part of 10 minutes to make a substitution. Meanwhile back room staff are flapping with no avail on the sidelines

Today the match just passing him by, totally unable to make a decision on how to combat spuds new threat.

Obviously having kolliwobbles and dzeko on the same pitch was always going to be like playing with 9 men, I said when Kolorov came on, we've lost this.

None of this mentions how many times he's changed formations in a match to lose a goal and revert back to original formation, when the chips are down Mancini can't change anything to react and often doesn't see things. I felt we were lucky against Chelsea last weekend.

These are not knee jerk reactions like the Mancini inners would say but we have been on a steady decking since Dec 2011 with no answers from the man at the helm. He has brought success to the club which I thank him for(more the owners) but we cannot stagnate in this he's a hero and he can do no wrong mentality. We are not the same club as 10 years ago, we need to progress.

To do this we need a manager who can read the game, can motivate a team and can make worthwhile tactical amendments attuned to our players skillset. We need a manager who can adapt and quickly, in stark contrast we have a rigid manager bringing his stubborn totalitarian attitude and an inability to learn from mistakes.

Today my blood pressure went through the roof watching such ineffective management I nearly had a coronary.
 
Well said Mr Alan Shearer.

MANCHESTER CITY’S defeat at Tottenham yesterday has prompted fresh debate about Roberto Mancini’s position.
Wrongly in my opinion.

A fortnight ago he was being hailed for outwitting Alex Ferguson at Old Trafford to win his third Manchester derby in four in the league.

Now suddenly he is not the man to drive City on next season in some people’s eyes.

People jump to these judgments and I just hope the City owners don’t do the same.

A lot of Mancini doubters base their views on this season.

Yet in his three full seasons in charge Mancini will, in all likelihood, have finished third, second and first and delivered two FA Cups.

That, for me, in such a short space of time is success.

Everyone points at the money spent, and yes, there has been a huge investment. That does not directly translate to silverware.

I know that from my time at Newcastle where we spent a lot of money and fell short.

Liverpool have spent huge amounts in the past trying to win the title.

Chelsea continue to spend big but that has not meant success every season.

What Mancini managed to do was gel the talent together to produce a trophy-winning team and that deserves credit.

To say ‘I could do it with all that cash’ is nonsense.

Mancini has still had to manage the expectations, talent, egos and take on the best in terms of Manchester United.

This title defence has not been great, I admit. Neither was ours at Blackburn.

In both situations the club needed to strengthen from that point of strength after winning the Premier League.

We didn’t at Blackburn and neither did City in the summer.

Mancini told the board what big-money signings were needed to push the team on and they didn’t get them.

That’s not his fault.

Meanwhile United were getting the man to vastly improve them from a position where they finished level on points with City.

Robin van Persie has been the big difference.

Mancini’s detractors will point at his failure in Europe.

In both Champions League seasons they have failed to get out of the group stage.

Last season they were unlucky after getting 10 points.

This season they were drawn in the toughest group of the lot and couldn’t do it. But it is not as if their neighbours have been pulling up trees in Europe over the last two seasons either.

Fergie’s men were knocked out in the group stage last season and in the last 16 this.

City have come a long way in a very short space of time from being also-rans to winning the title.

You cannot expect them to simply go on and dominate — not with United around.

Mancini will know what it needs to make City bounce back.

The mistakes of last summer will not be made again.

They will come back stronger.

City are building something still and to change the manager who has done so much to start it all would be wrong.

Unless they want to be regarded in the same vein as Chelsea, whose knees jerk at the slightest slip-up, they need to keep faith with Mancini.

From what I gather, he retains the support of 99 per cent of the City faithful with his name sung at every game.

True, there will have been plenty of grumbles after yesterday’s capitulation at Spurs.

But Manchester United didn’t get to where they are today by chopping and changing when things temporarily took a downturn and neither should City.
 
Re: Robertos glaring mistakes

He never seems in control, I still say that Mancini gave up last season it was our players that pulled us through. Although I understand that sentence gives the Mancini inners a chance to quote their favourite good =players bad=manager equation.

One particular bullet we seem to have dodged with him tho is his preference to load the defence when we are 1 up, we invite pressure when we dont play possession football and surprised we haven't been stung more, but its worked for him so maybe I'm wrong here.

I am very passionate about my club hence why I feel we need the change, we all know what's to know about Mancini, rigid chequebook manager. We need a flexible tactician who develops players.

allyboy said:
Agreed, I was more annoyed with him as I've ever been. Think Rigid is the correct word, you could see the game falling apart just like Chelsea where we managed to hang on. Bit Hughes-like today which worries me big time.

Jaffamandango said:
It pains me to say it but the guy is clueless, today we effectively had no manager.

How many times has he been made to look like a Muppet. Bayern last season, I still think Mancini rubbed everyone up that day, not excusing tevezs actions.

Kompany's injury in which it took him the best part of 10 minutes to make a substitution. Meanwhile back room staff are flapping with no avail on the sidelines

Today the match just passing him by, totally unable to make a decision on how to combat spuds new threat.

Obviously having kolliwobbles and dzeko on the same pitch was always going to be like playing with 9 men, I said when Kolorov came on, we've lost this.

None of this mentions how many times he's changed formations in a match to lose a goal and revert back to original formation, when the chips are down Mancini can't change anything to react and often doesn't see things. I felt we were lucky against Chelsea last weekend.

These are not knee jerk reactions like the Mancini inners would say but we have been on a steady decking since Dec 2011 with no answers from the man at the helm. He has brought success to the club which I thank him for(more the owners) but we cannot stagnate in this he's a hero and he can do no wrong mentality. We are not the same club as 10 years ago, we need to progress.

To do this we need a manager who can read the game, can motivate a team and can make worthwhile tactical amendments attuned to our players skillset. We need a manager who can adapt and quickly, in stark contrast we have a rigid manager bringing his stubborn totalitarian attitude and an inability to learn from mistakes.

Today my blood pressure went through the roof watching such ineffective management I nearly had a coronary.
 
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Jaffamandango said:
He never seems in control, I still say that Mancini gave up last season it was our players that pulled us through.

These quotes were in the Mirror earlier this season, they could be made up but who knows...

A source close to Mancini said: “People thought that Roberto was playing mind games when he said United would win the title.

“He is amused by this ­because he wasn’t being clever. He genuinely thought it was impossible for there to be any other outcome than United being champions.

“Roberto was impressed with the role that Brian Kidd played in making sure the players and the coaching staff didn’t give up.

“He told Roberto that United would drop points. He told the players and the other coaches that they would have even bigger regrets if United dropped points and City were not there to take advantage.

“At a dinner in Italy, Roberto admitted that Kidd played a big part in the title win. His respect for him has grown even more because of it.”
 
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LoveCity said:
Jaffamandango said:
He never seems in control, I still say that Mancini gave up last season it was our players that pulled us through.

These quotes were in the Mirror earlier this season, they could be made up but who knows...

A source close to Mancini said: “People thought that Roberto was playing mind games when he said United would win the title.

“He is amused by this ­because he wasn’t being clever. He genuinely thought it was impossible for there to be any other outcome than United being champions.

“Roberto was impressed with the role that Brian Kidd played in making sure the players and the coaching staff didn’t give up.

“He told Roberto that United would drop points. He told the players and the other coaches that they would have even bigger regrets if United dropped points and City were not there to take advantage.

“At a dinner in Italy, Roberto admitted that Kidd played a big part in the title win. His respect for him has grown even more because of it.”

Unfortunately mate lightening will not strike twice.
 
Re: Robertos glaring mistakes

Kidd deserves a lot of praise for his role last season, whilst Mancini's the tactical front, you can't help but feel Kidd is the one doing some of the man management. There's been a lot of criticism leveled at Mancini's man management, on here, in the media etc. and maybe Kidd is the one talking to the players once Mancini has had his initial say? Just a thought.
 
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LoveCity said:
Jaffamandango said:
He never seems in control, I still say that Mancini gave up last season it was our players that pulled us through.

These quotes were in the Mirror earlier this season, they could be made up but who knows...

A source close to Mancini said: “People thought that Roberto was playing mind games when he said United would win the title.

“He is amused by this ­because he wasn’t being clever. He genuinely thought it was impossible for there to be any other outcome than United being champions.

“Roberto was impressed with the role that Brian Kidd played in making sure the players and the coaching staff didn’t
“He told Roberto that United would drop points. He told the players and the other coaches that they would have even bigger regrets if United dropped points and City were not there to take advantage.

“At a dinner in Italy, Roberto admitted that Kidd played a big part in the title win. His respect for him has grown even more because of it.”

If true, it tells you all you need to know. never surrender should be the motto of any football manager. Not feel sorry for yourself and blame all and sundry, and the fact we need to spend more money.
 
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