Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

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Re: Robertos glaring mistakes

allyboy said:
I have supported Bobby from day 1 and still do. But if he keeps screwing this up, Wigan will pip us at Wembley and he will lose his job.

1. Nasri and Milner are not wingers. If you want the the best out of these 2, they have play more centrally. Nasri is a great player who has never really been given the 'Silva role" as he's put too far wide. He's extremely one footed- so if defenders want to show him on his left, hes screwed.

Milner is with Tevez, our most industrious player. again wasted out wide. To me, he's a genuine box to box true midfielder who would plug that gap when Yaya goes forward and would give cover to Barry.

2. Yaya was out on his feet today. He is useless in a holding role when not in peek condition. Players glide past him. He needs to play much further forward.
But Bobby won't take him off. Even Garcia would have done better today and that's saying something!, Make the change for gods sake, he's not untouchable, new contract or not!!

3. Why does he never move Komps into Midfield when its so obvious the middle of the park is being lost. Get Lescott on, take yaya off if not performing and get Komps forward. Bobby has to gamble a bit more when that happens.

4. Dzeko and Kolarov are not technically gifted enough for our style of football. end of.

5. Why put Kun on the bench if you're not going to use him?, especially watching Dzeko play like a 2 year old. Bizarre.

Sort it Bobby, and sort it quick otherwise this season and you're job will end in the bin.

Agree strongly that Milner and Nasri are suited to playing inside. Yaya plays far too many matches and though a great player, is lazy, even after being dispossessed. Milner could start in his place, when needed.

Nasri, I believe, could have been better utilized as a second striker, especially when we were short-handed there. Dribbles well in tight spaces and a very good finisher in the box, plus it would relieve him of some of his defensive responsibilities.

Have no idea why Kun was on the bench if Bobby had absolutely no intention of bringing him on, even for a few minutes.
 
Keeping Mancini will means not advancing in Europe, losing the Premier League again and wasting more money on the wrong players.



Everytime the team lose, he came out with " We don't deserve this"

" We don't deserve to be 15 points behind"


Listen Mancini, you only get what you deserve


Spurs got 4 points from United and they are 20 points behind them, so don't use the win at Old Trafford to cover your mistakes.
 
Tevez City said:
Keeping Mancini will means not advancing in Europe, losing the Premier League again and wasting more money on the wrong players.

Don't be stupid.
 
The Future's Blue said:
I see we lost again.
For the fifth time in the season versus the rags' four losses, with the best defence in the league for the third year running. Conceding goals and losing games has not been our problem this year, especially as the rags still have both Arsenal and Chelsea to play there's a good possibility that we could finish the season having lost the same number of games they have. Drawing games and not scoring goals has been our issue.
 
Skashion said:
The Future's Blue said:
I see we lost again.
For the fifth time in the season versus the rags' four losses, with the best defence in the league for the third year running. Conceding goals and losing games has not been our problem this year, especially as the rags still have both Arsenal and Chelsea to play. Drawing games and not scoring goals has been our issue.
Not scoring is the issue and if we'd taken our chances, we wouldn't be back to the same old.
 
moomba said:
Tevez City said:
Keeping Mancini will means not advancing in Europe, losing the Premier League again and wasting more money on the wrong players.

Don't be stupid.

Most of the players he bough their values only went down and almost halved.


(Kolarov 17m, Dzeko 27m, Garcia 16m, Sinclair 7m, Savic 7m, Maicon 3m, Rodwell 12m) = 89 Million Pound on players without really improving the team.
 
sam-caddick said:
Agree completely with Alan Shearer!

In my opinion, sacking Mancini - paying him and his back room staff off to add to it - will be an even more of a step back than this season.

The money paid out on sacking him will no doubt affect FFP and who we can sign, players will have to get used to a new manager and new system which is a gamble, and who is to say players who have flourished under Mancini start to go to pot with a new manager because of their desired systems?

Mancini knows his team, he knows the faults and how to repair them, he knows we didn't press on from last season and improve the team.

Who is better than him?? Mourinho ain't gonna' come because he has the scum job on his mind down the pipeline, Guardiola is at Bayern, Ancelotti looks set to replace Mourinho at Madrid, Klopp wants to stay at Borussia.

Pellegrini, Simeone, Conte, Laudrup to name a few are all great coaches, but Mancini is as good if not better than them, his trophy haul proves that!

FORZA Mancini I say, one bad season does not justify a sacking if you ask me! He is putting a lot towards building the foundations for where our club will be in 10 years time, developing us an identity and putting trophies in the cabinet at the same time.

We are a new club to the big time in football, we have to have patience, and from what I see is steady progress - yes with a few mistakes made here and there - but no doubt we are slowly becoming the force Mansour hoped to see from us when he bought us.

We don't have the mentality or identity yet of United; Madrid, Barca, Bayern, Milan and Juventus, these clubs have an aura around them in which players automatically know what is expected of them when players sign their contract's for them. Attitude has played a huge downfall on our season this year, Mancini has tried to put it in place with his demands and criticism of players, eventually it will all click into place and players who play for City will know everytime they go on the pitch they have to play at 100%.

Look at United! Some of their first team would probably not even make our bench but because of the aura and expectations around United, players raise their games and play to their potential pretty much most of the time.

If this City team was a United team, it would not suprise me it getting close to 100 points and close to the CL final! The identity of playing for the scum makes every players attitude and concentration 100% at all times, and until our identity, attitude and expectations become matched of that of the current great sides in Europe we will keep getting inconsistency.

Fergie spent a tough first few years trying to put a mentality and identity back in the scum, his managerial stability is the reason why they have that annoying yet praiseworthy attitude of always playing at 100%, and know what is always expected of you, and to go on and do more than that. Would United be the force they are today if they sacked Fergie after those first couple of years and gone though a few more managers in the process? I don't know but I doubt it.

Mancini is the man who is trying no doubt to create this mentality at our club, it is not going to be an overnight process as it take years! By doing this we need stability and sacking Mancini puts us another step behind at achieving this feat!
Very thoughtful post Sam. Kudos to you. I must say you have provided a very astute insight into this ongoing debate.

Well done.
 
citytill1die84 said:
Well said Mr Alan Shearer.

MANCHESTER CITY’S defeat at Tottenham yesterday has prompted fresh debate about Roberto Mancini’s position.
Wrongly in my opinion.

A fortnight ago he was being hailed for outwitting Alex Ferguson at Old Trafford to win his third Manchester derby in four in the league.

Now suddenly he is not the man to drive City on next season in some people’s eyes.

People jump to these judgments and I just hope the City owners don’t do the same.

A lot of Mancini doubters base their views on this season.

Yet in his three full seasons in charge Mancini will, in all likelihood, have finished third, second and first and delivered two FA Cups.

That, for me, in such a short space of time is success.

Everyone points at the money spent, and yes, there has been a huge investment. That does not directly translate to silverware.

I know that from my time at Newcastle where we spent a lot of money and fell short.

Liverpool have spent huge amounts in the past trying to win the title.

Chelsea continue to spend big but that has not meant success every season.

What Mancini managed to do was gel the talent together to produce a trophy-winning team and that deserves credit.

To say ‘I could do it with all that cash’ is nonsense.

Mancini has still had to manage the expectations, talent, egos and take on the best in terms of Manchester United.

This title defence has not been great, I admit. Neither was ours at Blackburn.

In both situations the club needed to strengthen from that point of strength after winning the Premier League.

We didn’t at Blackburn and neither did City in the summer.

Mancini told the board what big-money signings were needed to push the team on and they didn’t get them.

That’s not his fault.

Meanwhile United were getting the man to vastly improve them from a position where they finished level on points with City.

Robin van Persie has been the big difference.

Mancini’s detractors will point at his failure in Europe.

In both Champions League seasons they have failed to get out of the group stage.

Last season they were unlucky after getting 10 points.

This season they were drawn in the toughest group of the lot and couldn’t do it. But it is not as if their neighbours have been pulling up trees in Europe over the last two seasons either.

Fergie’s men were knocked out in the group stage last season and in the last 16 this.

City have come a long way in a very short space of time from being also-rans to winning the title.

You cannot expect them to simply go on and dominate — not with United around.

Mancini will know what it needs to make City bounce back.

The mistakes of last summer will not be made again.

They will come back stronger.

City are building something still and to change the manager who has done so much to start it all would be wrong.

Unless they want to be regarded in the same vein as Chelsea, whose knees jerk at the slightest slip-up, they need to keep faith with Mancini.

From what I gather, he retains the support of 99 per cent of the City faithful with his name sung at every game.

True, there will have been plenty of grumbles after yesterday’s capitulation at Spurs.

But Manchester United didn’t get to where they are today by chopping and changing when things temporarily took a downturn and neither should City.

This+1 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Im being vacuous. ;)
 
Tevez City said:
moomba said:
Tevez City said:
Keeping Mancini will means not advancing in Europe, losing the Premier League again and wasting more money on the wrong players.

Don't be stupid.

Most of the players he bough their values only went down and almost halved.


(Kolarov 17m, Dzeko 27m, Garcia 16m, Sinclair 7m, Savic 7m, Maicon 3m, Rodwell 12m) = 89 Million Pound on players without really improving the team.

Kolarov,Dzeko and Garcia are prices only City have to pay any other team would of got them half the price.
 
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