BoyBlue_1985 said:waspish said:Blue Heaven said:My reply was to guvnors son mcfc, not you. When Bobby is sacked at season's end, you will have to adjust to a new coaching regime. If you choose to shove off and no longer support City, that will be your choice. I hope it isn't...
What evidence do you have that Mancini will be sacked at the end of the season?
There is none either way I wish people would stop debating on something we have no idea on
Balti said:we should have instant constant success on all fronts
apparently
Been on the fence for a while, dont know which way I will fall yet, I have never warmed to Mancini at all but I cannot let that sway my decision.The cookie monster said:Good fence sitting :)BoyBlue_1985 said:See my above postThe cookie monster said:The outers must also be talking to txiki and ferran too eh?
As they are repeatedly saying mancini will be gone in the summer
samharris said:NipHolmes said:samharris said:So they did win something then ??
Oh yeah, they won the 'we lost the fucking title on goal difference trophy'....quickly followed by the 'team ethic,motivation and fighting spirit shield'...
Both are proudly on display at the united museum no doubt..
If people are classing a Charity Shield win for us as a trophy then they must do with the rags for last season to be fair and free of bias.
United had no Vidic (you've seen how we miss Kompany) and yet they matched us last season.
I blame Mancini this season. Granted we didn't bring in the set of players wanted but getting all of them was fanciful to be frank. Mancini still by and large had the same squad as last year yet we fell off the pace and lost the title by Feb. Mancini needs to set up to thrash teams rather than win and keep a clean sheet. Players look restricted and imo we get 50-70% out of our potential playing the way we do.
It's no coincidence that many players fell out of form at the same time. His man management has been found wanting and tactitally he's got a few things wrong. Granted he's had United numbers but Everton and Sunderland have ours. An FA Cup will patch up what's been an under par campaign, but even our run in the Cup has been fortuanate givene the competition faced. Bar Chelsea we've had it pretty easy.
I hope Mancini moves on to Monaco, Roma or Italy NT, a parting with a smile. I then hope we bring in somebody who will get us playing closer to our true potential who also manages players with a less abrasive approach. Mancini is a very good manager but imo we have peaked with him. Changing manager isn't a new Chelsea, it isn't being ungrateful either, it simply is a change of direction whcih I believe we need. We brought in Adebayor, Bellamy, RSC etc in the first wave if change and then we upgraded to suit our ambition, I believe the same is required again to advance. Mangers may have an inferior c.v to Mancini but their approach may fit us better and will inturn improve us.
Just my opinion. Whatever happens I just hope we don't end up playing thrid fiddle to United and Chelsea because that really would be criminal. Winning the league has given me a taste, I want more. Being in Europe was stuff of dreams and I remember being a kid wishing for City to be there. We have the chance now, we should take it. Be the best we can be.
We all want the same mate.. its just that many on here believe that Bob( with the transfer targets he wants) will rip this league apart.. he didnt get his targets last season..If we had denied the scum RVP ( who Bob wanted) who do you think would be top of the prem right now ??
Bobs next level is to get rid of the deadwood and bring in class to replace them..
When he gets it right he gets it right, we were dominating yesterday yet our subs were inferior to spuds.. had we had silva and Aguero yesterday we may well have done them by more than last year,such was our dominance.
We have been through this though a million times nipNipHolmes said:BoyBlue_1985 said:waspish said:What evidence do you have that Mancini will be sacked at the end of the season?
There is none either way I wish people would stop debating on something we have no idea on
Exactly.
The boards silence hasn't helped the matter. I've heard rumours he's staying and going, nothing concrete. I personally believe we are compiling a list of potential replacements and will see how things are in the summer. IMO he needs the FA Cup to at least have protection.
bluetrue said:samharris said:NipHolmes said:If people are classing a Charity Shield win for us as a trophy then they must do with the rags for last season to be fair and free of bias.
United had no Vidic (you've seen how we miss Kompany) and yet they matched us last season.
I blame Mancini this season. Granted we didn't bring in the set of players wanted but getting all of them was fanciful to be frank. Mancini still by and large had the same squad as last year yet we fell off the pace and lost the title by Feb. Mancini needs to set up to thrash teams rather than win and keep a clean sheet. Players look restricted and imo we get 50-70% out of our potential playing the way we do.
It's no coincidence that many players fell out of form at the same time. His man management has been found wanting and tactitally he's got a few things wrong. Granted he's had United numbers but Everton and Sunderland have ours. An FA Cup will patch up what's been an under par campaign, but even our run in the Cup has been fortuanate givene the competition faced. Bar Chelsea we've had it pretty easy.
I hope Mancini moves on to Monaco, Roma or Italy NT, a parting with a smile. I then hope we bring in somebody who will get us playing closer to our true potential who also manages players with a less abrasive approach. Mancini is a very good manager but imo we have peaked with him. Changing manager isn't a new Chelsea, it isn't being ungrateful either, it simply is a change of direction whcih I believe we need. We brought in Adebayor, Bellamy, RSC etc in the first wave if change and then we upgraded to suit our ambition, I believe the same is required again to advance. Mangers may have an inferior c.v to Mancini but their approach may fit us better and will inturn improve us.
Just my opinion. Whatever happens I just hope we don't end up playing thrid fiddle to United and Chelsea because that really would be criminal. Winning the league has given me a taste, I want more. Being in Europe was stuff of dreams and I remember being a kid wishing for City to be there. We have the chance now, we should take it. Be the best we can be.
We all want the same mate.. its just that many on here believe that Bob( with the transfer targets he wants) will rip this league apart.. he didnt get his targets last season..If we had denied the scum RVP ( who Bob wanted) who do you think would be top of the prem right now ??
Bobs next level is to get rid of the deadwood and bring in class to replace them..
When he gets it right he gets it right, we were dominating yesterday yet our subs were inferior to spuds.. had we had silva and Aguero yesterday we may well have done them by more than last year,such was our dominance.
But it's HIS deadwood. Then his replacements this summer will be next summer's deadwood.
Also not sure that the 'when he gets it right, he gets it right' argument works. On a similar note, 'when he gets it wrong, he gets it wrong.'
samharris said:NipHolmes said:samharris said:So they did win something then ??
Oh yeah, they won the 'we lost the fucking title on goal difference trophy'....quickly followed by the 'team ethic,motivation and fighting spirit shield'...
Both are proudly on display at the united museum no doubt..
If people are classing a Charity Shield win for us as a trophy then they must do with the rags for last season to be fair and free of bias.
United had no Vidic (you've seen how we miss Kompany) and yet they matched us last season.
I blame Mancini this season. Granted we didn't bring in the set of players wanted but getting all of them was fanciful to be frank. Mancini still by and large had the same squad as last year yet we fell off the pace and lost the title by Feb. Mancini needs to set up to thrash teams rather than win and keep a clean sheet. Players look restricted and imo we get 50-70% out of our potential playing the way we do.
It's no coincidence that many players fell out of form at the same time. His man management has been found wanting and tactitally he's got a few things wrong. Granted he's had United numbers but Everton and Sunderland have ours. An FA Cup will patch up what's been an under par campaign, but even our run in the Cup has been fortuanate givene the competition faced. Bar Chelsea we've had it pretty easy.
I hope Mancini moves on to Monaco, Roma or Italy NT, a parting with a smile. I then hope we bring in somebody who will get us playing closer to our true potential who also manages players with a less abrasive approach. Mancini is a very good manager but imo we have peaked with him. Changing manager isn't a new Chelsea, it isn't being ungrateful either, it simply is a change of direction whcih I believe we need. We brought in Adebayor, Bellamy, RSC etc in the first wave if change and then we upgraded to suit our ambition, I believe the same is required again to advance. Mangers may have an inferior c.v to Mancini but their approach may fit us better and will inturn improve us.
Just my opinion. Whatever happens I just hope we don't end up playing thrid fiddle to United and Chelsea because that really would be criminal. Winning the league has given me a taste, I want more. Being in Europe was stuff of dreams and I remember being a kid wishing for City to be there. We have the chance now, we should take it. Be the best we can be.
We all want the same mate.. its just that many on here believe that Bob( with the transfer targets he wants) will rip this league apart.. he didnt get his targets last season..If we had denied the scum RVP ( who Bob wanted) who do you think would be top of the prem right now ??
Bobs next level is to get rid of the deadwood and bring in class to replace them..
When he gets it right he gets it right, we were dominating yesterday yet our subs were inferior to spuds.. had we had silva and Aguero yesterday we may well have done them by more than last year,such was our dominance.
Blue Heaven said:waspish said:Blue Heaven said:My reply was to guvnors son mcfc, not you. When Bobby is sacked at season's end, you will have to adjust to a new coaching regime. If you choose to shove off and no longer support City, that will be your choice. I hope it isn't...
What evidence do you have that Mancini will be sacked at the end of the season?
What evidence does Ragnarok have that he won't? In fact, that was the basis of the sarcasm in my reply to him. You did pick that up, didn't you?
samharris said:bluetrue said:samharris said:We all want the same mate.. its just that many on here believe that Bob( with the transfer targets he wants) will rip this league apart.. he didnt get his targets last season..If we had denied the scum RVP ( who Bob wanted) who do you think would be top of the prem right now ??
Bobs next level is to get rid of the deadwood and bring in class to replace them..
When he gets it right he gets it right, we were dominating yesterday yet our subs were inferior to spuds.. had we had silva and Aguero yesterday we may well have done them by more than last year,such was our dominance.
But it's HIS deadwood. Then his replacements this summer will be next summer's deadwood.
Also not sure that the 'when he gets it right, he gets it right' argument works. On a similar note, 'when he gets it wrong, he gets it wrong.'
The win at the swamp tells me he does get it right.
NipHolmes said:samharris said:NipHolmes said:If people are classing a Charity Shield win for us as a trophy then they must do with the rags for last season to be fair and free of bias.
United had no Vidic (you've seen how we miss Kompany) and yet they matched us last season.
I blame Mancini this season. Granted we didn't bring in the set of players wanted but getting all of them was fanciful to be frank. Mancini still by and large had the same squad as last year yet we fell off the pace and lost the title by Feb. Mancini needs to set up to thrash teams rather than win and keep a clean sheet. Players look restricted and imo we get 50-70% out of our potential playing the way we do.
It's no coincidence that many players fell out of form at the same time. His man management has been found wanting and tactitally he's got a few things wrong. Granted he's had United numbers but Everton and Sunderland have ours. An FA Cup will patch up what's been an under par campaign, but even our run in the Cup has been fortuanate givene the competition faced. Bar Chelsea we've had it pretty easy.
I hope Mancini moves on to Monaco, Roma or Italy NT, a parting with a smile. I then hope we bring in somebody who will get us playing closer to our true potential who also manages players with a less abrasive approach. Mancini is a very good manager but imo we have peaked with him. Changing manager isn't a new Chelsea, it isn't being ungrateful either, it simply is a change of direction whcih I believe we need. We brought in Adebayor, Bellamy, RSC etc in the first wave if change and then we upgraded to suit our ambition, I believe the same is required again to advance. Mangers may have an inferior c.v to Mancini but their approach may fit us better and will inturn improve us.
Just my opinion. Whatever happens I just hope we don't end up playing thrid fiddle to United and Chelsea because that really would be criminal. Winning the league has given me a taste, I want more. Being in Europe was stuff of dreams and I remember being a kid wishing for City to be there. We have the chance now, we should take it. Be the best we can be.
We all want the same mate.. its just that many on here believe that Bob( with the transfer targets he wants) will rip this league apart.. he didnt get his targets last season..If we had denied the scum RVP ( who Bob wanted) who do you think would be top of the prem right now ??
Bobs next level is to get rid of the deadwood and bring in class to replace them..
When he gets it right he gets it right, we were dominating yesterday yet our subs were inferior to spuds.. had we had silva and Aguero yesterday we may well have done them by more than last year,such was our dominance.
I actually think RVP would've had less goals with us. I think United set up perfectky to compliment him. Shoulda, woulda, coulda really mate. I simply feel we set up too defensively and our midfield is much too slow, little pace and pressing and that's thorn in our side imo.