Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

[Blue Heaven]

If people are classing a Charity Shield win for us as a trophy then they must do with the rags for last season to be fair and free of bias.

United had no Vidic (you've seen how we miss Kompany) and yet they matched us last season.

I blame Mancini this season. Granted we didn't bring in the set of players wanted but getting all of them was fanciful to be frank. Mancini still by and large had the same squad as last year yet we fell off the pace and lost the title by Feb. Mancini needs to set up to thrash teams rather than win and keep a clean sheet. Players look restricted and imo we get 50-70% out of our potential playing the way we do.

It's no coincidence that many players fell out of form at the same time. His man management has been found wanting and tactitally he's got a few things wrong. Granted he's had United numbers but Everton and Sunderland have ours. An FA Cup will patch up what's been an under par campaign, but even our run in the Cup has been fortuanate givene the competition faced. Bar Chelsea we've had it pretty easy.

I hope Mancini moves on to Monaco, Roma or Italy NT, a parting with a smile. I then hope we bring in somebody who will get us playing closer to our true potential who also manages players with a less abrasive approach. Mancini is a very good manager but imo we have peaked with him. Changing manager isn't a new Chelsea, it isn't being ungrateful either, it simply is a change of direction whcih I believe we need. We brought in Adebayor, Bellamy, RSC etc in the first wave if change and then we upgraded to suit our ambition, I believe the same is required again to advance. Mangers may have an inferior c.v to Mancini but their approach may fit us better and will inturn improve us.

Just my opinion. Whatever happens I just hope we don't end up playing thrid fiddle to United and Chelsea because that really would be criminal. Winning the league has given me a taste, I want more. Being in Europe was stuff of dreams and I remember being a kid wishing for City to be there. We have the chance now, we should take it. Be the best we can be.

We all want the same mate.. its just that many on here believe that Bob( with the transfer targets he wants) will rip this league apart.. he didnt get his targets last season..If we had denied the scum RVP ( who Bob wanted) who do you think would be top of the prem right now ??

Bobs next level is to get rid of the deadwood and bring in class to replace them..
When he gets it right he gets it right, we were dominating yesterday yet our subs were inferior to spuds.. had we had silva and Aguero yesterday we may well have done them by more than last year,such was our dominance.

But it's HIS deadwood. Then his replacements this summer will be next summer's deadwood.

Also not sure that the 'when he gets it right, he gets it right' argument works. On a similar note, 'when he gets it wrong, he gets it wrong.'

Dzeko, Nasri, Kolarov all rumored to be off, and they were players Bobby insisted on. Unfortunately, he never figured out how to properly deploy them. Why did he want them so badly in the first place?

 

[NipHolmes]

We all want the same mate.. its just that many on here believe that Bob( with the transfer targets he wants) will rip this league apart.. he didnt get his targets last season..If we had denied the scum RVP ( who Bob wanted) who do you think would be top of the prem right now ??

Bobs next level is to get rid of the deadwood and bring in class to replace them..
When he gets it right he gets it right, we were dominating yesterday yet our subs were inferior to spuds.. had we had silva and Aguero yesterday we may well have done them by more than last year,such was our dominance.

But it's HIS deadwood. Then his replacements this summer will be next summer's deadwood.

Also not sure that the 'when he gets it right, he gets it right' argument works. On a similar note, 'when he gets it wrong, he gets it wrong.'

The win at the swamp tells me he does get it right. And as for deadwood,yes its his deadwood but Dzeko, kolarov,& garcia etc all came with decent CV's..

Those players weren't bought to fit a system though imo. This is where it falls down. Mancini may have been burdended by Hughes but he's burdened himelf too. Honest to god Sam I've knwon Maicons been shot for 2 years now, I said so in the summer, it was shocking that champions of England bought a declining player like that. For what he's done we may as well saved the fee and wages and used to lower FFP, to the tune of £8mill believe it or not!

 

[samharris]

But it's HIS deadwood. Then his replacements this summer will be next summer's deadwood.

Also not sure that the 'when he gets it right, he gets it right' argument works. On a similar note, 'when he gets it wrong, he gets it wrong.'

The win at the swamp tells me he does get it right.

13 points behind the rags suggests he also gets it wrong as well.

And winning the title last year was down to what ?? luck ??

please answer.

 

[NipHolmes]

We all want the same mate.. its just that many on here believe that Bob( with the transfer targets he wants) will rip this league apart.. he didnt get his targets last season..If we had denied the scum RVP ( who Bob wanted) who do you think would be top of the prem right now ??

Bobs next level is to get rid of the deadwood and bring in class to replace them..
When he gets it right he gets it right, we were dominating yesterday yet our subs were inferior to spuds.. had we had silva and Aguero yesterday we may well have done them by more than last year,such was our dominance.

I actually think RVP would've had less goals with us. I think United set up perfectky to compliment him. Shoulda, woulda, coulda really mate. I simply feel we set up too defensively and our midfield is much too slow, little pace and pressing and that's thorn in our side imo.

Are you not using the shoulda woulda coulda argument too..??

In fact every argument on here has that basis..

And I said deny the scum RVP.. theres a difference..

Last year the rags didn't have RVP and yet they matched us in the league for points. RVP not being there is big don't get me wrong but I rate Hernandez and I think he'd have stepped up to the mantle and also Rooney, lets not forget he was great for them last year.

The problem isn't United it's us. We've let them cruise and to put it down to RVP is very naive imo.

 

[Blue Heaven]

We all want the same mate.. its just that many on here believe that Bob( with the transfer targets he wants) will rip this league apart.. he didnt get his targets last season..If we had denied the scum RVP ( who Bob wanted) who do you think would be top of the prem right now ??

Bobs next level is to get rid of the deadwood and bring in class to replace them..
When he gets it right he gets it right, we were dominating yesterday yet our subs were inferior to spuds.. had we had silva and Aguero yesterday we may well have done them by more than last year,such was our dominance.

But it's HIS deadwood. Then his replacements this summer will be next summer's deadwood.

Also not sure that the 'when he gets it right, he gets it right' argument works. On a similar note, 'when he gets it wrong, he gets it wrong.'

The win at the swamp tells me he does get it right. And as for deadwood,yes its his deadwood but Dzeko, kolarov,& garcia etc all came with decent CV's..

Can you imagine a manager in a corporate firm who hired a highly-touted candidate for an important position, only for that hire to screw up so badly he had to be sacked in a year or two? If so, then further imagine his attempt to justify that hiring by insisting that "yes, he was utter shite, but his CV was impressive..?"

 

[samharris]

But it's HIS deadwood. Then his replacements this summer will be next summer's deadwood.

Also not sure that the 'when he gets it right, he gets it right' argument works. On a similar note, 'when he gets it wrong, he gets it wrong.'

The win at the swamp tells me he does get it right. And as for deadwood,yes its his deadwood but Dzeko, kolarov,& garcia etc all came with decent CV's..

Those players weren't bought to fit a system though imo. This is where it falls down. Mancini may have been burdended by Hughes but he's burdened himelf too. Honest to god Sam I've knwon Maicons been shot for 2 years now, I said so in the summer, it was shocking that champions of England bought a declining player like that. For what he's done we may as well saved the fee and wages and used to lower FFP, to the tune of £8mill believe it or not!

Like has been said on here numerous times before..

Do you really think the likes of Rodders, maicon, garcia and sinclair were bobs prefered targets ??

Oh please !!

 

[bluetrue]

The win at the swamp tells me he does get it right. And as for deadwood,yes its his deadwood but Dzeko, kolarov,& garcia etc all came with decent CV's..

Those players weren't bought to fit a system though imo. This is where it falls down. Mancini may have been burdended by Hughes but he's burdened himelf too. Honest to god Sam I've knwon Maicons been shot for 2 years now, I said so in the summer, it was shocking that champions of England bought a declining player like that. For what he's done we may as well saved the fee and wages and used to lower FFP, to the tune of £8mill believe it or not!

Like has been said on here numerous times before..

Do you really think the likes of Rodders, maicon, garcia and sinclair were bobs prefered targets ??

Oh please !!

Maybe not Sinclair, but Maicon was 100% Mancini's choice. He tried to sign him for City from day one.

 

[NipHolmes]

There is none either way I wish people would stop debating on something we have no idea on

Exactly.

The boards silence hasn't helped the matter. I've heard rumours he's staying and going, nothing concrete. I personally believe we are compiling a list of potential replacements and will see how things are in the summer. IMO he needs the FA Cup to at least have protection.

We have been through this though a million times nip
Most blues want him to have another season,which i would say is a big percentage
Some want him gone at all cost for anyone,and i mean anyone
Others only want him gone for an upgrade,fair enough
And maybe some will take a gamble on an up and coming manager,as i know thats your option.

Every great manager started somewhere. I'd ask what our future strategy is, I'd ask what system needs to be deployed and I'd ask what type of personnel was being brought in. I'd then bring in a coach to fit the 3 criterias mentioned.

IMO De Boer is the best young coach in the world right now, or one of them. He's a punt never the less. Then you have Simeone too but isn't as good a fit as De Boer. Pellegrini would get us playing more attacking and would better us in Europe imo but he's hardly a proven elite manager, he needs somehwere to prove that and Real sacked him too soon for my money. Unless we get Klopp, Jose or Ancelotti it's going to be a punt no matter what we do. As you know as a professional gambler, we must make an informed, educated and calculated gamble.

Mancini has failed to get the best out of what he has and expecting an influx of cash every summer isn't the way we will be run by the looks of it. Getting the most out fo what we have is paramount, of that there is no denying. Hand on heart can any 'inner' say Mancini has scraped the very last bit out the barrel in regards to oiur squad? I don't think so, in fact I know so.

 

[Blue Heaven]

The win at the swamp tells me he does get it right. And as for deadwood,yes its his deadwood but Dzeko, kolarov,& garcia etc all came with decent CV's..

Those players weren't bought to fit a system though imo. This is where it falls down. Mancini may have been burdended by Hughes but he's burdened himelf too. Honest to god Sam I've knwon Maicons been shot for 2 years now, I said so in the summer, it was shocking that champions of England bought a declining player like that. For what he's done we may as well saved the fee and wages and used to lower FFP, to the tune of £8mill believe it or not!

Like has been said on here numerous times before..

Do you really think the likes of Rodders, maicon, garcia and sinclair were bobs prefered targets ??

Oh please !!

Bobby is a long-time admirer of Rodwell, who may turn out to be an excellent buy for us if he can overcome his hamstring issue. Maicon was his player at Inter, and Bobby may have wanted him for CL experience and because he at least has a history playing right wing-back in a 3-5-2. Garcia was a highly-rated destroyer at Benfica. For various reasons, they haven't worked out well. To imply they were chosen by Marwood, not Bobby, is something of a leap, I would think.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

The win at the swamp tells me he does get it right. And as for deadwood,yes its his deadwood but Dzeko, kolarov,& garcia etc all came with decent CV's..

Those players weren't bought to fit a system though imo. This is where it falls down. Mancini may have been burdended by Hughes but he's burdened himelf too. Honest to god Sam I've knwon Maicons been shot for 2 years now, I said so in the summer, it was shocking that champions of England bought a declining player like that. For what he's done we may as well saved the fee and wages and used to lower FFP, to the tune of £8mill believe it or not!

Like has been said on here numerous times before..

Do you really think the likes of Rodders, maicon, garcia and sinclair were bobs prefered targets ??

Oh please !!

The first two were 100% Mancini targets I can assure you. And if players don't want to come here or the financials aren't right then that's no one's fault.

But Mancini could have had RVP if he'd agreed to sell Balotelli, as the owners told him to. But he dug his heels in and refused so the deal that had been agreed for six months fell through. And then he has to sell Balotelli anyway six months later.