Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

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guvnors son mcfc said:
Blue Heaven said:
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
They lost the Premiership title.
They didn't sack the manager in a kneejerk reaction.
This year they will win it back.
I'll let you join the dots here.

So if we retain Bobby for next season, according to your logic, what will transpire? We will share the title with ManUre? I'll let you join the dots there.

-- Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:41 am --

guvnors son mcfc said:
Forza Mancini

1 premier league title won with amazing football played breaking many premier league records along the way
1 FA Cup with a 2nd just one win away
1 Charity Shield against Chelsea
6-1 at the Swamp
2-1 at the swamp
1-0 against the scum at Wembley in a major semi final
2-1 against the current European champions who were up to that point unbeaten at Wembley in a major semi final
5-1 at Spurs ( I can never remember that before )
2 League cup semi finals
3 years consecutive Champions League qualifacation.
Premier League Runners up 2012/13

In 3 years !!!!!!!!!!

The media, tv pundits in fact everyone has tried to derail this Manchester City project and no other manager in the history of British football has faced such pressure or scrutiny or in fact a desire for him to fail . He hasn't

Watch at the final whistle when we beat the scum, the exact moment when we finally arrived and the scum KNEW we had arrived. The first thing Mancini does is salute the fans. He understood what we had been through.

Fuck off all you Mancini outers, NEVER EVER in all our history have we had 3 consecutive years like this you ungrateful fuckwits, get behind our manager or fuck off to Old Trafford.

The difference between us is that I am a Blue, supporting MCFC, and you are a Blue, supporting Mancini FC.

Ok Mr Blue Heaven
To question my support for MCFC is rather silly, you know nothing about me and please do not go down that road because I will make you look very silly.

The Pisscan took 6 years to win his first pot for United and it was the FA cup after he got out of jail by Mark Robins at Nottingham Forest and was backed financially equally in relation to that period in time.

Mancini will hopefully have won that twice in three years plus a Premier League title.

My guess is that the Mancini out brigade are a mixture of Rags and new fans probably from overseas and the odd "real match going blue" who has a right to their opinion, although I think they are a minority.

The match going blues who sing his name and every match are happy with Mancini. How many other managers sing their managers name with such volume ?? They dont even sing for bacon face after 25 years and countless trophies.

I'm not questioning your support for MCFC (I have no doubt that you are a loyal Blue). I am, however, questioning your support for Mancini FC...

By the way, many have tried to 'make you [me] look very silly.' A select few have succeeded, here and there, but many others have fallen by the wayside trying, to no avail. Good luck to you in your mission.
 
BurnseyBlue said:
Why is everyone who is for Mancini overlooking his CL record. 2 years of not getting past the group stages, the lowest points total ever by an English team (only took 1 point off Ajax).
Can anyone say that next year is gonna be any better and thats a massive income stream were missing out on for Financial Fairplay.
We've been linked with Pellegrini at Malaga and look what he achieved this season in the CL, minutes away from knocking Dortmund out and progressing into the Semi's.

Who is overlooking his champions league record.

Its a factor but only one factor, admissions out on the knockouts this year and last is no guarantee we'll miss out next.
 
moomba said:
BurnseyBlue said:
Why is everyone who is for Mancini overlooking his CL record. 2 years of not getting past the group stages, the lowest points total ever by an English team (only took 1 point off Ajax).
Can anyone say that next year is gonna be any better and thats a massive income stream were missing out on for Financial Fairplay.
We've been linked with Pellegrini at Malaga and look what he achieved this season in the CL, minutes away from knocking Dortmund out and progressing into the Semi's.

Who is overlooking his champions league record.

Its a factor but only one factor, admissions out on the knockouts this year and last is no guarantee we'll miss out next.

On form over his career it's more likely we will fain than succeed. We will also have another tough group by looks of it.


To anser the Txiki thing again, he keeps Mancini and fails to win league and he looks bad, he brings in ??? and wins the title and he looks good. Simple as that.
 
mancity1 said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Begiristain and Soriano have the finest of balancing acts to perform.

They would afford themselves of greater job security by dispensing with Mancini at the end of this season, rather than allowing him to spend upwards of £70m and him still possibly coming up short.

Whoever the replacement, they would sure to be top class and would be afforded at least a two-year grace period, barring being an unmitigated disaster.

Mancini is not their man in terms of appointment, and I suspect they will have already factored in when the spotlight would become a little more intense for them.

Keeping Mancini now would be an immediate call and impact their ability to go about their remit successfully in the future, with regards resources.

I would like to see Mancini get a proper send-off at the Cup Final, all the cards on the table, beforehand, and at least try to form some sort of momentum on and off the pitch.

I hope they are not thinking of their own job security Tolmie when deciding on who to work with in the future as you allude to.

That is short term thinking and will ensure their tenure is not as long as it would be otherwise.

I would expect whatever money the owners allow in the transfer market notwithstanding restraints would be spent irrespective of who he is in charge.

I am yet to see those wanting RM gone produce a "top class" name who is available.

Its probably best to keep RM for one last crack at stage 2 qualification ( assuming we get the points required to finish in a qualifying position ) as the pressure on the new appointment should he fail at his first attempt with us would be enormous and it would be on those who selected him.


I can give you two names - Mourinho and Pellegrini - both men who also appear to be deemed good enough for Chelsea, a direct rival - I would also suggest Benitez.

The money Mancini has already been allowed to spend in previous seasons, the value he has attained for it, will most certainly be weighted against the spend this summer.

It was also one of the reasons the brakes were applied last summer.

As for the short-term thinking, I can't agree, mate. These two fellas have come in and will do what they feel serves both themselves and the club in tandem.
 
I can forgive Mancini in the CL up to now as its a difficult job when you have the seedings against you. Add to that the unluckiest of draws. We'll soon be in a position to walk the group- as most others do.

IMO the tough CL group derailed our title bid as we had to put so much into it. We'd have smashed United at home if the groups were reversed - THAT was they day we really let go of the title and got caught in no mans land.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
mancity1 said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Begiristain and Soriano have the finest of balancing acts to perform.

They would afford themselves of greater job security by dispensing with Mancini at the end of this season, rather than allowing him to spend upwards of £70m and him still possibly coming up short.

Whoever the replacement, they would sure to be top class and would be afforded at least a two-year grace period, barring being an unmitigated disaster.

Mancini is not their man in terms of appointment, and I suspect they will have already factored in when the spotlight would become a little more intense for them.

Keeping Mancini now would be an immediate call and impact their ability to go about their remit successfully in the future, with regards resources.

I would like to see Mancini get a proper send-off at the Cup Final, all the cards on the table, beforehand, and at least try to form some sort of momentum on and off the pitch.

I hope they are not thinking of their own job security Tolmie when deciding on who to work with in the future as you allude to.

That is short term thinking and will ensure their tenure is not as long as it would be otherwise.

I would expect whatever money the owners allow in the transfer market notwithstanding restraints would be spent irrespective of who he is in charge.

I am yet to see those wanting RM gone produce a "top class" name who is available.

Its probably best to keep RM for one last crack at stage 2 qualification ( assuming we get the points required to finish in a qualifying position ) as the pressure on the new appointment should he fail at his first attempt with us would be enormous and it would be on those who selected him.


I can give you two names - Mourinho and Pellegrini - both men who also appear to be deemed good enough for Chelsea, a direct rival - I would also suggest Benitez.

The money Mancini has already been allowed to spend in previous seasons, the value he has attained for it, will most certainly be weighted against the spend this summer.

It was also one of the reasons the brakes were applied last summer.

As for the short-term thinking, I can't agree, mate. These two fellas have come in and will do what they feel serves both themselves and the club in tandem.

Hiddink.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
mancity1 said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Begiristain and Soriano have the finest of balancing acts to perform.

They would afford themselves of greater job security by dispensing with Mancini at the end of this season, rather than allowing him to spend upwards of £70m and him still possibly coming up short.

Whoever the replacement, they would sure to be top class and would be afforded at least a two-year grace period, barring being an unmitigated disaster.

Mancini is not their man in terms of appointment, and I suspect they will have already factored in when the spotlight would become a little more intense for them.

Keeping Mancini now would be an immediate call and impact their ability to go about their remit successfully in the future, with regards resources.

I would like to see Mancini get a proper send-off at the Cup Final, all the cards on the table, beforehand, and at least try to form some sort of momentum on and off the pitch.

I hope they are not thinking of their own job security Tolmie when deciding on who to work with in the future as you allude to.

That is short term thinking and will ensure their tenure is not as long as it would be otherwise.

I would expect whatever money the owners allow in the transfer market notwithstanding restraints would be spent irrespective of who he is in charge.

I am yet to see those wanting RM gone produce a "top class" name who is available.

Its probably best to keep RM for one last crack at stage 2 qualification ( assuming we get the points required to finish in a qualifying position ) as the pressure on the new appointment should he fail at his first attempt with us would be enormous and it would be on those who selected him.


I can give you two names - Mourinho and Pellegrini - both men who also appear to be deemed good enough for Chelsea, a direct rival - I would also suggest Benitez.

The money Mancini has already been allowed to spend in previous seasons, the value he has attained for it, will most certainly be weighted against the spend this summer.

It was also one of the reasons the brakes were applied last summer.

As for the short-term thinking, I can't agree, mate. These two fellas have come in and will do what they feel serves both themselves and the club in tandem.

Are you suggesting there that he didn't get the players he wanted because the owners didn't trust him with the money?
 
NipHolmes said:
guvnors son mcfc said:
Blue Heaven said:
So if we retain Bobby for next season, according to your logic, what will transpire? We will share the title with ManUre? I'll let you join the dots there.

-- Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:41 am --



The difference between us is that I am a Blue, supporting MCFC, and you are a Blue, supporting Mancini FC.

Ok Mr Blue Heaven
To question my support for MCFC is rather silly, you know nothing about me and please do not go down that road because I will make you look very silly.

The Pisscan took 6 years to win his first pot for United and it was the FA cup after he got out of jail by Mark Robins at Nottingham Forest and was backed financially equally in relation to that period in time.

Mancini will hopefully have won that twice in three years plus a Premier League title.

My guess is that the Mancini out brigade are a mixture of Rags and new fans probably from overseas and the odd "real match going blue" who has a right to their opinion, although I think they are a minority.

The match going blues who sing his name and every match are happy with Mancini. How many other managers sing their managers name with such volume ?? They dont even sing for bacon face after 25 years and countless trophies.

Why are United seen as our blueprint. We are going down a different route and they have no bearing on our plan except with them in mind as rivals fella.

Mancini in Europe is where he's falling. Even before he came here he was found out of his depth.

We dont want to be United...we want to be better than them, I hate them with a vengeance but they are the team to beat..

we beat them regularely in the prem but we have to learn to beat them consistently over a season.
 
Claytop said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
mancity1 said:
I hope they are not thinking of their own job security Tolmie when deciding on who to work with in the future as you allude to.

That is short term thinking and will ensure their tenure is not as long as it would be otherwise.

I would expect whatever money the owners allow in the transfer market notwithstanding restraints would be spent irrespective of who he is in charge.

I am yet to see those wanting RM gone produce a "top class" name who is available.

Its probably best to keep RM for one last crack at stage 2 qualification ( assuming we get the points required to finish in a qualifying position ) as the pressure on the new appointment should he fail at his first attempt with us would be enormous and it would be on those who selected him.


I can give you two names - Mourinho and Pellegrini - both men who also appear to be deemed good enough for Chelsea, a direct rival - I would also suggest Benitez.

The money Mancini has already been allowed to spend in previous seasons, the value he has attained for it, will most certainly be weighted against the spend this summer.

It was also one of the reasons the brakes were applied last summer.

As for the short-term thinking, I can't agree, mate. These two fellas have come in and will do what they feel serves both themselves and the club in tandem.

Are you suggesting there that he didn't get the players he wanted because the owners didn't trust him with the money?

I picked up on this too. If this is true it had more of an impact than just not indulging Mancini but it also laid the foundations for surendering the title.
 
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