Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

[samharris]

'It' would suggest one thing, not normally three things! Look, one thing you and I might actually agree about is that Bobby shouldn't necessarily be sacked (nor maybe retained) based on results only. With the Barca Boys in now, there are overarching goals for the entire footballing side of the operation which Bobby will be evaluated on. What kind of a trainer is he? Will he buy into a Barca style of play? Will he bring youth players forward into the first team, as appropriate. It's merely idle conjecture on my part, but I have a feeling that these evaluations will be just as important as where we finish in the League, etc.

I like you,want what is best,and if these guys can all club together to get the best for city then we we will all reap the rewards..

Give Bob one more season is all I want. If he fucks it up then its time to go..

It isnt his time to go just yet.

Fair enough, Sam. We can simply agree to disagree about Bobby. But if he is retained for next season, and turns it all around, I'll be back here to take my medicine and continue to cheer us on. I am desperate for us to continue to move forward with 'The Project' with or without Bobby (or Txiki or Soriano or anyone else). Our enemies are legion, and they are circling overhead, what with their UEFA FFP garbage and now EPL similar requirements, all hatched by Platini, Gill and the rest. Now, the Sheikh's money is somewhat irrelevant, and we no longer have the margin for error in major decision-making that we had when he first purchased the club. There are critical decisions to be taken, including what to do with Bobby, and whatever they wind up being, they had better be good ones, or we could be badly screwed. Txiki, in particular, will be under excruciating pressure this summer, far worse than what even Bobby has had to endure.

Glad we can finally talk as grown ups :) FFP will play a major part in anything that transpires in the summer, Any new manager will want huge spending to turn the team to their own design..

This will of course put the team back to gel mode all over again. Can this scenario really be afforded when just tweaking of the team and mistakes is all thats required..

Changes are more of a financial scenario tbh.

 

[blueinsa]

I like you,want what is best,and if these guys can all club together to get the best for city then we we will all reap the rewards..

Give Bob one more season is all I want. If he fucks it up then its time to go..

It isnt his time to go just yet.

Fair enough, Sam. We can simply agree to disagree about Bobby. But if he is retained for next season, and turns it all around, I'll be back here to take my medicine and continue to cheer us on. I am desperate for us to continue to move forward with 'The Project' with or without Bobby (or Txiki or Soriano or anyone else). Our enemies are legion, and they are circling overhead, what with their UEFA FFP garbage and now EPL similar requirements, all hatched by Platini, Gill and the rest. Now, the Sheikh's money is somewhat irrelevant, and we no longer have the margin for error in major decision-making that we had when he first purchased the club. There are critical decisions to be taken, including what to do with Bobby, and whatever they wind up being, they had better be good ones, or we could be badly screwed. Txiki, in particular, will be under excruciating pressure this summer, far worse than what even Bobby has had to endure.

Glad we can finally talk as grown ups :) FFP will play a major part in anything that transpires in the summer, Any new manager will want huge spending to turn the team to their own design..

This will of course put the team back to gel mode all over again. Can this scenario really be afforded when just tweaking of the team and mistakes is all thats required..

Changes are more of a financial scenario tbh.

If we do appoint a new manager, he will be expected to work with the vast majority of this expensively assembled squad and any new signings will only be made off the back of monies made from players being moved on.

We have a very good squad of players.

 

[guvnors son mcfc]

Forza Mancini

1 premier league title won with amazing football played breaking many premier league records along the way
1 FA Cup with a 2nd just one win away
1 Charity Shield against Chelsea
6-1 at the Swamp
2-1 at the swamp
1-0 against the scum at Wembley in a major semi final
2-1 against the current European champions who were up to that point unbeaten at Wembley in a major semi final
5-1 at Spurs ( I can never remember that before )
2 League cup semi finals
3 years consecutive Champions League qualifacation.
Premier League Runners up 2012/13

In 3 years !!!!!!!!!!

The media, tv pundits in fact everyone has tried to derail this Manchester City project and no other manager in the history of British football has faced such pressure or scrutiny or in fact a desire for him to fail . He hasn't

Watch at the final whistle when we beat the scum, the exact moment when we finally arrived and the scum KNEW we had arrived. The first thing Mancini does is salute the fans. He understood what we had been through.

Fuck off all you Mancini outers, NEVER EVER in all our history have we had 3 consecutive years like this you ungrateful fuckwits, get behind our manager or fuck off to Old Trafford.

Who are you to tell anyone how to think and what to say? You elitist prat!

Beating United isn't the be and end all and is actually small time logic. Look passed them and look at the whole parameter of football. CC, FA Cup, Premier League and Europe. He's been terrible in 2, decent in 1 (Chelsea imploded, Arsenal sold two of their best players AGAIN, whcih helped our cause) and been good in the other competition which we've had the rub of the green in regards to competition faced (bar Chelsea).

Mancini is an employee of the club I love, the clubs bigger than him and our ambitions should be the best for MCFC not sentiment tainted logic. Mancini should stay because he's the best for our future, not because what he has done (even then i'd say he's been fortuante to have backing like he's had). We need to look to the future and make the next step from a top domestic team to a top european team. That's the difference here.

Strong words Internet warrior

 

[blueinsa]

Forza Mancini

1 premier league title won with amazing football played breaking many premier league records along the way
1 FA Cup with a 2nd just one win away
1 Charity Shield against Chelsea
6-1 at the Swamp
2-1 at the swamp
1-0 against the scum at Wembley in a major semi final
2-1 against the current European champions who were up to that point unbeaten at Wembley in a major semi final
5-1 at Spurs ( I can never remember that before )
2 League cup semi finals
3 years consecutive Champions League qualifacation.
Premier League Runners up 2012/13

In 3 years !!!!!!!!!!

The media, tv pundits in fact everyone has tried to derail this Manchester City project and no other manager in the history of British football has faced such pressure or scrutiny or in fact a desire for him to fail . He hasn't

Watch at the final whistle when we beat the scum, the exact moment when we finally arrived and the scum KNEW we had arrived. The first thing Mancini does is salute the fans. He understood what we had been through.

Fuck off all you Mancini outers, NEVER EVER in all our history have we had 3 consecutive years like this you ungrateful fuckwits, get behind our manager or fuck off to Old Trafford.

Who are you to tell anyone how to think and what to say? You elitist prat!

Beating United isn't the be and end all and is actually small time logic. Look passed them and look at the whole parameter of football. CC, FA Cup, Premier League and Europe. He's been terrible in 2, decent in 1 (Chelsea imploded, Arsenal sold two of their best players AGAIN, whcih helped our cause) and been good in the other competition which we've had the rub of the green in regards to competition faced (bar Chelsea).

Mancini is an employee of the club I love, the clubs bigger than him and our ambitions should be the best for MCFC not sentiment tainted logic. Mancini should stay because he's the best for our future, not because what he has done (even then i'd say he's been fortuante to have backing like he's had). We need to look to the future and make the next step from a top domestic team to a top european team. That's the difference here.

Strong words Internet warrior

Fuck me, you have the brass neck to post that after giving it the big un on your original post?

 

[NipHolmes]

Forza Mancini

1 premier league title won with amazing football played breaking many premier league records along the way
1 FA Cup with a 2nd just one win away
1 Charity Shield against Chelsea
6-1 at the Swamp
2-1 at the swamp
1-0 against the scum at Wembley in a major semi final
2-1 against the current European champions who were up to that point unbeaten at Wembley in a major semi final
5-1 at Spurs ( I can never remember that before )
2 League cup semi finals
3 years consecutive Champions League qualifacation.
Premier League Runners up 2012/13

In 3 years !!!!!!!!!!

The media, tv pundits in fact everyone has tried to derail this Manchester City project and no other manager in the history of British football has faced such pressure or scrutiny or in fact a desire for him to fail . He hasn't

Watch at the final whistle when we beat the scum, the exact moment when we finally arrived and the scum KNEW we had arrived. The first thing Mancini does is salute the fans. He understood what we had been through.

Fuck off all you Mancini outers, NEVER EVER in all our history have we had 3 consecutive years like this you ungrateful fuckwits, get behind our manager or fuck off to Old Trafford.

Who are you to tell anyone how to think and what to say? You elitist prat!

Beating United isn't the be and end all and is actually small time logic. Look passed them and look at the whole parameter of football. CC, FA Cup, Premier League and Europe. He's been terrible in 2, decent in 1 (Chelsea imploded, Arsenal sold two of their best players AGAIN, whcih helped our cause) and been good in the other competition which we've had the rub of the green in regards to competition faced (bar Chelsea).

Mancini is an employee of the club I love, the clubs bigger than him and our ambitions should be the best for MCFC not sentiment tainted logic. Mancini should stay because he's the best for our future, not because what he has done (even then i'd say he's been fortuante to have backing like he's had). We need to look to the future and make the next step from a top domestic team to a top european team. That's the difference here.

Strong words Internet warrior

Backed up proudly.

I'm not the ones telling fans how to baheve, think or how to support am I?

You need to realise people think differently and are allowed to do so. Not be todl to fuck off and support a team they hate because they think differently. If you can't realise that I'm wasting my time but more importantly you're wasting your time on here.

 

[Blue Heaven]

I like you,want what is best,and if these guys can all club together to get the best for city then we we will all reap the rewards..

Give Bob one more season is all I want. If he fucks it up then its time to go..

It isnt his time to go just yet.

Fair enough, Sam. We can simply agree to disagree about Bobby. But if he is retained for next season, and turns it all around, I'll be back here to take my medicine and continue to cheer us on. I am desperate for us to continue to move forward with 'The Project' with or without Bobby (or Txiki or Soriano or anyone else). Our enemies are legion, and they are circling overhead, what with their UEFA FFP garbage and now EPL similar requirements, all hatched by Platini, Gill and the rest. Now, the Sheikh's money is somewhat irrelevant, and we no longer have the margin for error in major decision-making that we had when he first purchased the club. There are critical decisions to be taken, including what to do with Bobby, and whatever they wind up being, they had better be good ones, or we could be badly screwed. Txiki, in particular, will be under excruciating pressure this summer, far worse than what even Bobby has had to endure.

Glad we can finally talk as grown ups :) FFP will play a major part in anything that transpires in the summer, Any new manager will want huge spending to turn the team to their own design..

This will of course put the team back to gel mode all over again. Can this scenario really be afforded when just tweaking of the team and mistakes is all thats required..

Changes are more of a financial scenario tbh.

Yes, Sam, it is good we are finally showing respect for each other, but sometimes the better things in life are worth waiting for...;-) FFP is surely a huge factor in every major decision we make, and that is a shame, but we must deal with what is in front of us. For this reason, any new manager, or Bobby going forward, will have to accept that the days of huge transfer fees and wages, without corresponding player departures, are over for us for the time being. This is why it is even possible that Bobby might be retained, but decide himself to leave for someplace else. Monaco comes to mind, because there is big money there to be spent to build a newly promoted side, and if rumors are to be believed, the wage packet on offer to him is incredible. I would imagine that there is big potential there for commercial tie-ins to develop new revenue streams for compliance with FFP as they go forward. I also think the food might be better and Bobby would cut a rather dashing figure playing baccarat or hold'em in a tux in one of their casinos...

 

[Latics Fan SJK]

Ok then he won the CC which is just as good as the Fa Cup nowadays such is the fall in stock of Fa Cup unfortunately and he got to the final of another which he lost but redeemed in the next league fioxture v Chelsea.

He was sacked for commercial reason, not for success reasons. He did well imho. Unfortunately his old eye for a player let him down and they overpaid drastically on average players. On the field they were a match for anyone and imo were better last season than they are this season. Also factor in Suarez was out for 8 games too.

Makes me laugh when Rodgers talks about progress, they haven't won fuck all and league position is about the same.

Whilst Dalglish did well to get Liverpool to two finals last season, I don't agree that they played better stuff than they are this season (at the same time, I'm not saying Rodgers has them playing like Barcelona either).

They didn't play as aesthetcially good but they were more direct and intentful. They set up to win and they were on their day as good as anyone in the league.

Dalglish had them in roughly the same poistion minus a few points but also won a trophy and runner up in another. That's for good reason, he aimed to win and imo was very hatdly sacked.

He was sacked, IMO, because of the way he still approaches the game in an almost jurassic approach. He spunked an absolute shit load on average players such as Downing, Henderson & Carroll. Any new-age manager would have spent that money much more wisely. I wont knock him for his cup exploits, credit where it's due. The thing that helped on that front though is that Liverpool didn't have to challenge on Leagues & Champions Leagues fronts at the same time.

If they wanted to show any signs of progression then sacking him, IMO, was the only option. I do feel they are a better team this season, despite being potless (again), however, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Rafa back there before long.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Begiristain and Soriano have the finest of balancing acts to perform.

They would afford themselves of greater job security by dispensing with Mancini at the end of this season, rather than allowing him to spend upwards of £70m and him still possibly coming up short.

Whoever the replacement, they would sure to be top class and would be afforded at least a two-year grace period, barring being an unmitigated disaster.

Mancini is not their man in terms of appointment, and I suspect they will have already factored in when the spotlight would become a little more intense for them.

Keeping Mancini now would be an immediate call and impact their ability to go about their remit successfully in the future, with regards resources.

I would like to see Mancini get a proper send-off at the Cup Final, all the cards on the table, beforehand, and at least try to form some sort of momentum on and off the pitch.

 

[samharris]

Fair enough, Sam. We can simply agree to disagree about Bobby. But if he is retained for next season, and turns it all around, I'll be back here to take my medicine and continue to cheer us on. I am desperate for us to continue to move forward with 'The Project' with or without Bobby (or Txiki or Soriano or anyone else). Our enemies are legion, and they are circling overhead, what with their UEFA FFP garbage and now EPL similar requirements, all hatched by Platini, Gill and the rest. Now, the Sheikh's money is somewhat irrelevant, and we no longer have the margin for error in major decision-making that we had when he first purchased the club. There are critical decisions to be taken, including what to do with Bobby, and whatever they wind up being, they had better be good ones, or we could be badly screwed. Txiki, in particular, will be under excruciating pressure this summer, far worse than what even Bobby has had to endure.

Glad we can finally talk as grown ups :) FFP will play a major part in anything that transpires in the summer, Any new manager will want huge spending to turn the team to their own design..

This will of course put the team back to gel mode all over again. Can this scenario really be afforded when just tweaking of the team and mistakes is all thats required..

Changes are more of a financial scenario tbh.

Yes, Sam, it is good we are finally showing respect for each other, but sometimes the better things in life are worth waiting for...;-) FFP is surely a huge factor in every major decision we make, and that is a shame, but we must deal with what is in front of us. For this reason, any new manager, or Bobby going forward, will have to accept that the days of huge transfer fees and wages, without corresponding player departures, are over for us for the time being. This is why it is even possible that Bobby might be retained, but decide himself to leave for someplace else. Monaco comes to mind, because there is big money there to be spent to build a newly promoted side, and if rumors are to be believed, the wage packet on offer to him is incredible. I would imagine that there is big potential there for commercial tie-ins to develop new revenue streams for compliance with FFP as they go forward. I also think the food might be better and Bobby would cut a rather dashing figure playing baccarat or hold'em in a tux in one of their casinos...

Of course all of my arguments are based on the assumption that Bob actually wants to stay.. If he doesnt...fuck him and get someone else..

I will stick with a manager who wants us, but any that dont ,are not fit to manage us.

 

[guvnors son mcfc]

I could have sworn they only lost the league on goal difference in the final few seconds of the season.....??

They lost the Premiership title.
They didn't sack the manager in a kneejerk reaction.
This year they will win it back.
I'll let you join the dots here.

So if we retain Bobby for next season, according to your logic, what will transpire? We will share the title with ManUre? I'll let you join the dots there.

-- Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:41 am --

Forza Mancini

1 premier league title won with amazing football played breaking many premier league records along the way
1 FA Cup with a 2nd just one win away
1 Charity Shield against Chelsea
6-1 at the Swamp
2-1 at the swamp
1-0 against the scum at Wembley in a major semi final
2-1 against the current European champions who were up to that point unbeaten at Wembley in a major semi final
5-1 at Spurs ( I can never remember that before )
2 League cup semi finals
3 years consecutive Champions League qualifacation.
Premier League Runners up 2012/13

In 3 years !!!!!!!!!!

The media, tv pundits in fact everyone has tried to derail this Manchester City project and no other manager in the history of British football has faced such pressure or scrutiny or in fact a desire for him to fail . He hasn't

Watch at the final whistle when we beat the scum, the exact moment when we finally arrived and the scum KNEW we had arrived. The first thing Mancini does is salute the fans. He understood what we had been through.

Fuck off all you Mancini outers, NEVER EVER in all our history have we had 3 consecutive years like this you ungrateful fuckwits, get behind our manager or fuck off to Old Trafford.

The difference between us is that I am a Blue, supporting MCFC, and you are a Blue, supporting Mancini FC.

Ok Mr Blue Heaven
To question my support for MCFC is rather silly, you know nothing about me and please do not go down that road because I will make you look very silly.

The Pisscan took 6 years to win his first pot for United and it was the FA cup after he got out of jail by Mark Robins at Nottingham Forest and was backed financially equally in relation to that period in time.

Mancini will hopefully have won that twice in three years plus a Premier League title.

My guess is that the Mancini out brigade are a mixture of Rags and new fans probably from overseas and the odd "real match going blue" who has a right to their opinion, although I think they are a minority.

The match going blues who sing his name and every match are happy with Mancini. How many other managers sing their managers name with such volume ?? They dont even sing for bacon face after 25 years and countless trophies.