Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

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waspish said:
What I find astounding is certain city fans not giving Mancini the benefit of the doubt after winning the league LAST YEAR! It's 15 games in and you've lost faith in a winning manager for city something we haven't had for over 35 years...

what we have that we haven't had in 35 years is 500 fxxkin million to buy players, do people honestly think that the best manager we ever had just coincidently came at the same time
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Damocles said:
Manager payouts aren't amortised like transfer fees, it's one big hit. And his contract will be worth a £30m payout at the end of the season, then all of his staff go too which feasibly will cost another £10m. Then the cost of a new manager and staff.

This is what you're talking about here, in a monitoring period where we are sailing very close to the wind. Sacking a manager at a total cost of £40m wiith no possible way of getting this back and we will fail FFP on the back of it.

Again, if you're going to talk about sacking the manager and the like of, then at least put the effort in to actually thik about it for more than the ten seconds it takes you to write a post.

I've noticed before, you show breathtaking naiavity when it comes to football and commercial contracts. I'm going to a party now but will fill you in on the reality of the situation tomorrow.

Rest assured it won't cost anything like forty bloody mill when we sack him.

IF we were to sack him i think you meant, and as much as it irks me to agree with you the size of his contract will be pretty low in our owners priorities when deciding his future

For Damocles info i thought about this reply for about 30 seconds, if this meets with your requirements i care not
 
hilts said:
Damocles said:
BlueMoonz1977 said:
What so you think that Soriano and Begiristain aren't already plotting !!!

So we were plotting against a manager whilst offering him a 5 year deal?

Sounds plausible.

In all honesty i don't think the length of his contract will mean anything at the end of the day, i hope we stay with him but i think the supporters are showing signs of dissent, how the owners see the season so far i have no idea
Which supporters are these? The ones singing his name every match?

Regardless, his length of contract means a great deal. It could have been an extension, or 3 years, or results based. But the bloke got 5 years. The board have confidence in him, this manager talk is utter bullshit. Until I am proved otherwise (by us signing another manager) I will always say so.

And all you twits that call yourself blues need to get behind him. Comment on tactics and selections, but don't call for a change because it is not going to happen.
 
Damocles said:
our owner would not jeopardise us getting thrown out of Europe after working our bollocks off to meet FFP for three years because the manager is having a blip.

Thrown out? we don't need throwing out while he's in charge.
 
Davs 19 said:
bluemc1 said:
Davs 19 said:
Johnny come lately.

gotcha, but far from it, just dont rate mancini

Good attempt at a recovery but not having it.

Have a root round downstairs and find out why I started the thread. Then come back and tell me who's 'been got" :')

confused now, what am i trying to recover from ? and dont understand the whos been got bit
 
Davs 19 said:
Neil McNab said:
Davs 19 said:
Could be time to lock this one, sorry I ever started it looking at the collection of rags and idiots making up a fair proportion of the thread.
Don't ask a question if you can't handle the answers, for the record I consider a fan with blind loyalty to a bloke who played a very small part in our recent success and seems to be wasting talent, money and time as an idiot!

Cool. If I ever decide to value your opinion, I'll let you know.

Thanks for confirming my point of view though.
Why is it people like you always remind me of the Salem witch trials.
 
BlueMoonz1977 said:
Damocles said:
Manager payouts aren't amortised like transfer fees, it's one big hit. And his contract will be worth a £30m payout at the end of the season, then all of his staff go too which feasibly will cost another £10m. Then the cost of a new manager and staff.

This is what you're talking about here, in a monitoring period where we are sailing very close to the wind. Sacking a manager at a total cost of £40m wiith no possible way of getting this back and we will fail FFP on the back of it.

Again, if you're going to talk about sacking the manager and the like of, then at least put the effort in to actually thik about it for more than the ten seconds it takes you to write a post.


So basically what you are saying that because of the FFP our owners would not sack a manager if results and performances warranted it !!! So we would have to sit back and carry on regardless - utter rubbish

Only Rubbish if you believe firing managers (like Abramovich does) is a football model we should follow.
So unless Mancini is a disaster he won't be going anywhere for the next 2 and a half seasons. (I believe either side can finish the 5 year contract at the half way point - this was alluded to in an interview Mancini gave in Italy at the start of the season). I doubt he will be going anywhere in the short term. Our owners are looking for medium and long term success and that doesn't come firing your manager after a poor run of form. Like Hughes it would have to be consistent crapiness and Mancini would not have to have a plan to get us out of a rut.
For sure they can probably keep paying him his current salary if we 'sacked' him but Mancini wouldn't have signed a new contract if it wasn't bullet proof - even if he gets a job elsewhere he will get the money. No matter what Billy Shears and others think.
Anyway Roberto has a bloody good excuse this season with the Marwood summer transfer shambles.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Damocles said:
Manager payouts aren't amortised like transfer fees, it's one big hit. And his contract will be worth a £30m payout at the end of the season, then all of his staff go too which feasibly will cost another £10m. Then the cost of a new manager and staff.

This is what you're talking about here, in a monitoring period where we are sailing very close to the wind. Sacking a manager at a total cost of £40m wiith no possible way of getting this back and we will fail FFP on the back of it.

Again, if you're going to talk about sacking the manager and the like of, then at least put the effort in to actually thik about it for more than the ten seconds it takes you to write a post.

I've noticed before, you show breathtaking naiavity when it comes to football and commercial contracts. I'm going to a party now but will fill you in on the reality of the situation tomorrow, unless someone else does in the meantime.

Rest assured it won't cost anything like forty bloody mill when we sack him.

I await with bated breath for Didsbury Dave to tell me the contents of Mancini's contract. Because if there's anybody who you can trust to be an objective source on inside information regarding a non-standard clause in a contract for Roberto Mancini, it's Didsbury Dave.

Also "when we sack him". I see Dave has gotten another one of his inside tips. Get your money on Mou again lads!
 
Yaya_Tony said:
Which supporters are these? The ones singing his name every match?


Thats part and parcel of the small time mentality many still possess,blind loyalty due to years of mediocracy.

He's not good enough,we have to be ruthless otherwise progress will stop,the signs are already there.
 
People seem to completely ignore the fact that the CL group contained the spanish and german champions. Yeah City didn't do as well as the ought to have, but it wasn't Basel and Benfica they played.

As for todays game, Kompany had to come off early. We lost a key player at the back and the option of tactical substitution later on. Why hasen't anyone mentioned this?
 
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