Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

[Didsbury Dave]

No - he had to piss off at least 5 first teamers as well.

Get use to him being here another year
Am sure that will cheer you up.

He'll either go at the end of this season or will be here at least another 2 but I'm really not bothered one way or the other. We'll certainly do OK while he's here but if he does stick around, by the time he's finished everyone will realise he's never quite going to be good enough for where we want and need to be.

I can't believe the 2 year rumour myself. Doesn't make any football Sense whatsoever .

 

[The Flash]

Not quite. Real started the season badly. If they had started well and put pressure on Barca and kept the pressure on Barca then cracks may have appeared earlier and contributed to loss of form and a proper title race. As it was Barca had a pretty easy ride and its only recently that the cracks have shown. Hell Real were trailing in third for a large part of the season. It was a poor showing by any measurement and you cannot exempt Mourinho from his part in this. The fall out with the players is the root of Real's failure which led to Barca getting an easy ride in the league until it was too late.

You could say the same about us and United this season....

How ironic.

Mourinho is a better manager than Mancini but Jose is not coming to the Etihad. One gets the impression that we have not tried to get him and if Chelsea finish above us in the league next season, the top management at City can repent at their leisure.

Is there a vacancy for a new Manager at City at the moment?

Have I missed something? Other than wild internet-speculation?

 

[BobKowalski]

Should the Fernandinho deal now be concluded, Pellegrini's agent has very few notable clients which would fit other required areas of our team?

I still believe Pellegrini is the only candidate who would replace Mancini.

You think it's too early for De Boer to be considered Tolm?

There is nothing to suggest De Boer is being considered in the immediacy, although it's a job he has since publicly admitted he would like at some stage.

Our Academy Campus is at least another three or four years before showing any fruits of the labour.

It's about the immediacy. Football has always been about timing and Pellegrini is available and moving on.

Those links first originated out of his homeland of Chile, back in January, this is the most pertinent of points.

Just as Mancini will have his own long-term relationships with Italian journalists, Pellegrini could well have let it slip to a family member and it's gone from there.

The meeting last week with his agent, although plausible it could be a player, is too much of a coincidence.

Fernandinho is of South American stock, so he has that Begiristain stamp in terms of identifying, as is the Argentinian defender.

In my opinion, Pellegrini will end up at us or PSG this summer.

If Txiki is meeting Pellegrini's agent in public to discuss Pellegrini coming to City then he is an idiot.

If he's doing it to play games then he is a bigger idiot.

There is absolutely no need less than two weeks before a Cup Final to go around shit stirring. Makes absolutely no sense when you can and should conduct any such negotiations in private.

I have a lot of faith in Ferran and Txiki but stupidity is not an endearing trait.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Get use to him being here another year
Am sure that will cheer you up.

He'll either go at the end of this season or will be here at least another 2 but I'm really not bothered one way or the other. We'll certainly do OK while he's here but if he does stick around, by the time he's finished everyone will realise he's never quite going to be good enough for where we want and need to be.

I can't believe the 2 year rumour myself. Doesn't make any football Sense whatsoever .

We're not at the stage in our footballing development to be thinking further than from one season to the next with Mancini at the helm.

Even a new appointment would expect to get a two year grace period, barring a dramatic collapse, which can't happen with this squad of players.

It's all about the margins for this team at present, it has the potential to be a great one, a dominant one.

Mancini previous disasters in Europe and the poor defence of our title does not afford Mancini six months, never mind another season.

By December, the whole landscape could be known.

 

[The Flash]

You think it's too early for De Boer to be considered Tolm?

There is nothing to suggest De Boer is being considered in the immediacy, although it's a job he has since publicly admitted he would like at some stage.

Our Academy Campus is at least another three or four years before showing any fruits of the labour.

It's about the immediacy. Football has always been about timing and Pellegrini is available and moving on.

Those links first originated out of his homeland of Chile, back in January, this is the most pertinent of points.

Just as Mancini will have his own long-term relationships with Italian journalists, Pellegrini could well have let it slip to a family member and it's gone from there.

The meeting last week with his agent, although plausible it could be a player, is too much of a coincidence.

Fernandinho is of South American stock, so he has that Begiristain stamp in terms of identifying, as is the Argentinian defender.

In my opinion, Pellegrini will end up at us or PSG this summer.

I have a lot of faith in Ferran and Txiki but stupidity is not an endearing trait.

Whereas on this thread, it is a necessary trait, BK, judging by the 'outers' posts.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

If Txiki is meeting Pellegrini's agent in public to discuss Pellegrini coming to City then he is an idiot. If he's doing it to play games then he is a bigger idiot. There is absolutely no need less than two weeks before a Cup Final to go around shit stirring. Makes absolutely no sense when you can and should conduct any such negotiations in private.

I have a lot of faith in Ferran and Txiki but stupidity is not an endearing trait.

Maybe they desperately need to get a new manager quickly for next season because we won't have one otherwise?

 

[Latics Fan SJK]

Not really. All you are doing is providing excuses (or 'context') as to why Mourinho has not achieved his objectives at Real. For example stating that 'Barca's managerial problems have not been that bad' is clearly a nonsense. To lose the principal architect of this Barca team in the summer and to have his replacement hospitalised for half the season leaving the team without a leader is clearly 'bad' by anyone's definition. That the team has overcome this handicap does the club credit but over the last month or so it is taking its toll on the team.

The point remains that coming off the back of a league win, your main rival in a state of transition at the top and continuity in your own management team are ideal conditions to press home the advantage which Real failed to do largely because of the discord between Mourinho and the players.

That Mancini has succeeded in meeting the objectives set out by City and Mourinho has not is a matter of fact. This does not make Mourinho a bad manager or Mancini a better one it just is what it is.

You keep referring to these problems that Barca have had and how Mourinho should have exploited them. I would agree with you had these apparent problems actually affected their league form in question. I'll repeat, they have only dropped 10pts all season. With Madrid taking 4 of those, they have only dropped 6pts all season.

6 points! It wouldn't matter whether Madrid had 3 Ronaldo's in their team. Trying to win the league when your rival has picked up 6pts short of the maximum possible all season (not including the fact Madrid have taken 4 off them) would be hard in anyone's book.

I agree that Madrid, after their performance last season, should be closer than the 11pts gap suggests, however, a lot of that is down to just how good Barcelona have been this season, irrelevant of these recent CL indifferent performances.

Not quite. Real started the season badly. If they had started well and put pressure on Barca and kept the pressure on Barca then cracks may have appeared earlier and contributed to loss of form and a proper title race. As it was Barca had a pretty easy ride and its only recently that the cracks have shown. Hell Real were trailing in third for a large part of the season. It was a poor showing by any measurement and you cannot exempt Mourinho from his part in this. The fall out with the players is the root of Real's failure which led to Barca getting an easy ride in the league until it was too late.

You can put Madrid's form any way you want. The fact is, in order for Madrid to be heading Barcelona after 10 games, they would have had to win all 10 games, such as the form of Barcelona.

Madrid's and City's seasons have been similar this season. Both sides 3rd after 10 games, team at the top running away with the league and having it wrapped up early. Both sides fighting to finish 2nd. Both sides on the verge of winning a major domestic cup.

The only difference? One side made it through to the CL semi finals for the 3rd time in a row (which would be acceptable at all clubs except the circus that is the Madrid board) taking 4pts off the other side in the group stages on the way, as well as beating the team who are currently 14pts ahead of the other team, which so happens to be 3more points than what this team are currently trailing Barcelona. All this whilst the other team finished bottom of a group behind a team with a squad that cost less than Edin Dzeko.

 

[Danamy]

Get use to him being here another year
Am sure that will cheer you up.

He'll either go at the end of this season or will be here at least another 2 but I'm really not bothered one way or the other. We'll certainly do OK while he's here but if he does stick around, by the time he's finished everyone will realise he's never quite going to be good enough for where we want and need to be.

I can't believe the 2 year rumour myself. Doesn't make any football Sense whatsoever .

The rumour has come from a few that think Mancini's keeping the seat warm for Pep to rock up in two years time.

Like Tolm's said, there's no way you can plan that far ahead with Mancini at the helm, it also means Bayern must be in on it with Pep signing a three year deal?

 

[BobKowalski]

If Txiki is meeting Pellegrini's agent in public to discuss Pellegrini coming to City then he is an idiot. If he's doing it to play games then he is a bigger idiot. There is absolutely no need less than two weeks before a Cup Final to go around shit stirring. Makes absolutely no sense when you can and should conduct any such negotiations in private.

I have a lot of faith in Ferran and Txiki but stupidity is not an endearing trait.

Maybe they desperately need to get a new manager quickly for next season because we won't have one otherwise?

So have a meeting in private. Use the telephone. Whatever. Just don't do it in a very public place over lunch.

Seriously however the whole dynamic pans out over the summer there is no need to start negotiating for a new manager in public two weeks before the current manager leads you out for a Cup final. Do people believe Txiki is that stupid? I don't and certainly hope not.

And if Pellegrini does get the gig he's going to spend half his time checking out Txiki's lunch schedule just in case.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

If Txiki is meeting Pellegrini's agent in public to discuss Pellegrini coming to City then he is an idiot. If he's doing it to play games then he is a bigger idiot. There is absolutely no need less than two weeks before a Cup Final to go around shit stirring. Makes absolutely no sense when you can and should conduct any such negotiations in private.

I have a lot of faith in Ferran and Txiki but stupidity is not an endearing trait.

Maybe they desperately need to get a new manager quickly for next season because we won't have one otherwise?

So have a meeting in private. Use the telephone. Whatever. Just don't do it in a very public place over lunch.

Perhaps they don't need to hide it from Mancini for one reason or other.