Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

[BobKowalski]

You keep referring to these problems that Barca have had and how Mourinho should have exploited them. I would agree with you had these apparent problems actually affected their league form in question. I'll repeat, they have only dropped 10pts all season. With Madrid taking 4 of those, they have only dropped 6pts all season.

6 points! It wouldn't matter whether Madrid had 3 Ronaldo's in their team. Trying to win the league when your rival has picked up 6pts short of the maximum possible all season (not including the fact Madrid have taken 4 off them) would be hard in anyone's book.

I agree that Madrid, after their performance last season, should be closer than the 11pts gap suggests, however, a lot of that is down to just how good Barcelona have been this season, irrelevant of these recent CL indifferent performances.

Not quite. Real started the season badly. If they had started well and put pressure on Barca and kept the pressure on Barca then cracks may have appeared earlier and contributed to loss of form and a proper title race. As it was Barca had a pretty easy ride and its only recently that the cracks have shown. Hell Real were trailing in third for a large part of the season. It was a poor showing by any measurement and you cannot exempt Mourinho from his part in this. The fall out with the players is the root of Real's failure which led to Barca getting an easy ride in the league until it was too late.

You can put Madrid's form any way you want. The fact is, in order for Madrid to be heading Barcelona after 10 games, they would have had to win all 10 games, such as the form of Barcelona.

Madrid's and City's seasons have been similar this season. Both sides 3rd after 10 games, team at the top running away with the league and having it wrapped up early. Both sides fighting to finish 2nd. Both sides on the verge of winning a major domestic cup.

The only difference? One side made it through to the CL semi finals for the 3rd time in a row (which would be acceptable at all clubs except the circus that is the Madrid board) taking 4pts off the other side on the way as well as beating the team who are currently 14pts ahead of the other team, which so happens to be 3more points than what this team are currently trailing Barcelona.

So you're a big Mourinho fan then I take it...

 

[Latics Fan SJK]

Not quite. Real started the season badly. If they had started well and put pressure on Barca and kept the pressure on Barca then cracks may have appeared earlier and contributed to loss of form and a proper title race. As it was Barca had a pretty easy ride and its only recently that the cracks have shown. Hell Real were trailing in third for a large part of the season. It was a poor showing by any measurement and you cannot exempt Mourinho from his part in this. The fall out with the players is the root of Real's failure which led to Barca getting an easy ride in the league until it was too late.

You can put Madrid's form any way you want. The fact is, in order for Madrid to be heading Barcelona after 10 games, they would have had to win all 10 games, such as the form of Barcelona.

Madrid's and City's seasons have been similar this season. Both sides 3rd after 10 games, team at the top running away with the league and having it wrapped up early. Both sides fighting to finish 2nd. Both sides on the verge of winning a major domestic cup.

The only difference? One side made it through to the CL semi finals for the 3rd time in a row (which would be acceptable at all clubs except the circus that is the Madrid board) taking 4pts off the other side on the way as well as beating the team who are currently 14pts ahead of the other team, which so happens to be 3more points than what this team are currently trailing Barcelona.

So you're a big Mourinho fan then I take it...

Just putting everything into context that's all.

The answer's yes, though. I am a fan of Mourinho. At the same time, I don't dislike Mancini one bit. I just so happen to believe that Mourinho is league above.

 

[NipHolmes]

You can put Madrid's form any way you want. The fact is, in order for Madrid to be heading Barcelona after 10 games, they would have had to win all 10 games, such as the form of Barcelona.

Madrid's and City's seasons have been similar this season. Both sides 3rd after 10 games, team at the top running away with the league and having it wrapped up early. Both sides fighting to finish 2nd. Both sides on the verge of winning a major domestic cup.

The only difference? One side made it through to the CL semi finals for the 3rd time in a row (which would be acceptable at all clubs except the circus that is the Madrid board) taking 4pts off the other side on the way as well as beating the team who are currently 14pts ahead of the other team, which so happens to be 3more points than what this team are currently trailing Barcelona.

So you're a big Mourinho fan then I take it...

Just putting everything into context that's all.

The answer's yes, though. I am a fan of Mourinho. At the same time, I don't dislike Mancini one bit. I just so happen to believe that Mourinho is league above.

Which he is and which is what Moratti will say too, a person who is best qualified to say so.

 

[BobKowalski]

You can put Madrid's form any way you want. The fact is, in order for Madrid to be heading Barcelona after 10 games, they would have had to win all 10 games, such as the form of Barcelona.

Madrid's and City's seasons have been similar this season. Both sides 3rd after 10 games, team at the top running away with the league and having it wrapped up early. Both sides fighting to finish 2nd. Both sides on the verge of winning a major domestic cup.

The only difference? One side made it through to the CL semi finals for the 3rd time in a row (which would be acceptable at all clubs except the circus that is the Madrid board) taking 4pts off the other side on the way as well as beating the team who are currently 14pts ahead of the other team, which so happens to be 3more points than what this team are currently trailing Barcelona.

So you're a big Mourinho fan then I take it...

Just putting everything into context that's all.

The answer's yes, though. I am a fan of Mourinho. At the same time, I don't dislike Mancini one bit. I just so happen to believe that Mourinho is league above.

Well one man's 'context' is another man's 'excuses'

You like Mourinho and seek to excuse his failings at Real. Some people like Mancini and do likewise with his failings. All managers fail at some point. Its inevitable. Its how they respond to failure that matters.

 

[The Future's Blue]

It's funny how this link has taken on a mind of it's own. It's not only Pelligrini it's now also about Aguero and Isco who Pelligrini demands are at the club next season.

 

[BobKowalski]

So you're a big Mourinho fan then I take it...

Just putting everything into context that's all.

The answer's yes, though. I am a fan of Mourinho. At the same time, I don't dislike Mancini one bit. I just so happen to believe that Mourinho is league above.

Which he is and which is what Moratti will say too, a person who is best qualified to say so.

I have never said Mancini is a better manager than Mourinho. The latters record speaks for itself. Hell I like Mourinho (eye gouging aside)

I have consistently said they are different managers with different skillsets and that Mancini is better equipped to build a squad with a club that has not won anything in years and teach them how to win whereas Mourinho is better equipped to take a winning squad and get it to win more.

Both have a very saleable commodity in what they can do best and I see no problem in recognising their respective talents.

 

[Latics Fan SJK]

So you're a big Mourinho fan then I take it...

Just putting everything into context that's all.

The answer's yes, though. I am a fan of Mourinho. At the same time, I don't dislike Mancini one bit. I just so happen to believe that Mourinho is league above.

Well one man's 'context' is another man's 'excuses'

You like Mourinho and seek to excuse his failings at Real. Some people like Mancini and do likewise with his failings. All managers fail at some point. Its inevitable. Its how they respond to failure that matters.

I'm not excusing his failings. I pointed out earlier that he should have his team closer to Barcelona than what the current 11pt gap suggests.

I'm merely disagreeing with your belief that he's been more of a failure than Mancini this season. He hasn't.

I agree with your last statement about how they respond that matters. I believe Mourinho will respond very strongly if he's at Chelsea next season. I don't believe Mancini will respond strongly to another disappointing CL campaign.

 

[NipHolmes]

Just putting everything into context that's all.

The answer's yes, though. I am a fan of Mourinho. At the same time, I don't dislike Mancini one bit. I just so happen to believe that Mourinho is league above.

Which he is and which is what Moratti will say too, a person who is best qualified to say so.

I have never said Mancini is a better manager than Mourinho. The latters record speaks for itself. Hell I like Mourinho (eye gouging aside)

I have consistently said they are different managers with different skillsets and that Mancini is better equipped to build a squad with a club that has not won anything in years and teach them how to win whereas Mourinho is better equipped to take a winning squad and get it to win more.

Both have a very saleable commodity in what they can do best and I see no problem in recognising their respective talents.

I agree.

However we are at the stage now where we need a Mourninho more than we need a Mancini hence why I have a strong opinion. Doesn't mean I resent him etc. I just feel his time is up and we must move on, for his benefit and for ours.

You like to reply with a sound reasoning post, could you respond to this please becaue it's a genuine question and topic I'm intrigued about. The more responses the better.

''As for Mancini, we all want him to do well because we all know that him doing well means City does well. The problem is if he fails what happens then? Do we throw away a season possibly and replace him mid-campaign or do we carry on till end of season (my personal choice should he fail). Maybe he wins a trophy, what then?''

 

[The Flash]

Maybe they desperately need to get a new manager quickly for next season because we won't have one otherwise?

So have a meeting in private. Use the telephone. Whatever. Just don't do it in a very public place over lunch.

Perhaps they don't need to hide it from Mancini for one reason or other.

Because they were discussing players whom the man represents who perhaps Mancini has identified on his summer wish-list?

 

[BlueAnorak]

Can't believe this thread was lying dormant - yet the so called Mancini inners have to bump it just to have a go at Mourinho
- there is a thread in the general forum. So much for the outers being the wind up merchants
My opinion - Mourinho is twice the manager Mancini is at the moment. He will be a massive threat when he arrives at Chelsea

No offence intended, If you believe the outers wouldn't have a pop given the right circumstances then you are also slightly delusional.