Wigans fan base is pathetic

[Skashion]

Burnley will have their hangers-on and sold out their allocation. Wigan will have theirs, and haven't come close. That's the difference.

No the difference is that Burnley's game was a final. A one-off opportunity to visit the new Wembley. Wigan might get another chance next month. Let's see how many they take then. I doubt that they'll be returning any tickets for that one.

Probably not, because the reduced allocation you get for the final means you only get about 5k more than Wigan have already sold for the semi. It really would speak volumes if Wigan couldn't sell 26k for an FA Cup Final when Burnley can sell 36k for a Playoff Final. Mind you, if they didn't, you'd probably whine about it being two trips inside a month and the people who didn't go to the final went to the semi-final thinking it might be their only chance...

 

[SpiritofBurnden]

Burnley will have their hangers-on and sold out their allocation. Wigan will have theirs, and haven't come close. That's the difference.

No the difference is that Burnley's game was a final. A one-off opportunity to visit the new Wembley. Wigan might get another chance next month. Let's see how many they take then. I doubt that they'll be returning any tickets for that one.

Probably not, because the reduced allocation you get for the final means you only get about 5k more than Wigan have already sold for the semi. It really would speak volumes if Wigan couldn't sell 26k for an FA Cup Final when Burnley can sell 36k for a Playoff Final. Mind you, if they didn't, you'd probably whine about it being two trips inside a month and the people who didn't go to the final went to the semi-final thinking it might be their only chance...

I'm beginning to wonder whether you've actually read any of the last couple of pages. You do realise that you're comparing one team's support in a Wembley final, with another team's support in a Wembley semi-final, right?

Bolton has played in two Wembley F.A. Cup semi-finals and we didn't sell our allocation for either. Presumably that doesn't make us as massive as Burnley on your planet.

 

[Skashion]

I'm beginning to wonder whether you've actually read any of the last couple of pages. You do realise that you're comparing one team's support in a Wembley final, with another team's support in a Wembley semi-final, right?

Bolton has played in two Wembley F.A. Cup semi-finals and we didn't sell our allocation for either. Presumably that doesn't make us as massive as Burnley on your planet.

Oh, and we get to the real reason why you're so defensive. By having a go at Wigan I'm having a go at Bolton... :-)

 

[BlueKingEll]

No the difference is that Burnley's game was a final. A one-off opportunity to visit the new Wembley. Wigan might get another chance next month. Let's see how many they take then. I doubt that they'll be returning any tickets for that one.

Probably not, because the reduced allocation you get for the final means you only get about 5k more than Wigan have already sold for the semi. It really would speak volumes if Wigan couldn't sell 26k for an FA Cup Final when Burnley can sell 36k for a Playoff Final. Mind you, if they didn't, you'd probably whine about it being two trips inside a month and the people who didn't go to the final went to the semi-final thinking it might be their only chance...

I'm beginning to wonder whether you've actually read any of the last couple of pages. You do realise that you're comparing one team's support in a Wembley final, with another team's support in a Wembley semi-final, right?

Bolton has played in two Wembley F.A. Cup semi-finals and we didn't sell our allocation for either. Presumably that doesn't make us as massive as Burnley on your planet.

Without having any stats to hand I'd gestimate you to be very much in the Burnley/Blackburn/Preston size of club with comparable levels of success

 

[SpiritofBurnden]

I'm beginning to wonder whether you've actually read any of the last couple of pages. You do realise that you're comparing one team's support in a Wembley final, with another team's support in a Wembley semi-final, right?

Bolton has played in two Wembley F.A. Cup semi-finals and we didn't sell our allocation for either. Presumably that doesn't make us as massive as Burnley on your planet.

Oh, and we get to the real reason why you're so defensive. By having a go at Wigan I'm having a go at Bolton... :-)

You're 'having a go' at all small clubs. Like it or not teams like Wigan, Bolton, Blackpool and even the mighty Burnley, don't have queues of supporters lining up to take their place if they decide not to go.

Bolton sold out their allocation for the League Cup final at Wembley when we were a Second Division club (and the allocation for a League Cup final is greater than that for an F.A. Cup final) but there's a big difference between selling an allocation for a semi-final at Wembley and a final. That's something you don't appear able to grasp.<br /><br />-- Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:31 pm --<br /><br />

Probably not, because the reduced allocation you get for the final means you only get about 5k more than Wigan have already sold for the semi. It really would speak volumes if Wigan couldn't sell 26k for an FA Cup Final when Burnley can sell 36k for a Playoff Final. Mind you, if they didn't, you'd probably whine about it being two trips inside a month and the people who didn't go to the final went to the semi-final thinking it might be their only chance...

I'm beginning to wonder whether you've actually read any of the last couple of pages. You do realise that you're comparing one team's support in a Wembley final, with another team's support in a Wembley semi-final, right?

Bolton has played in two Wembley F.A. Cup semi-finals and we didn't sell our allocation for either. Presumably that doesn't make us as massive as Burnley on your planet.

Without having any stats to hand I'd gestimate you to be very much in the Burnley/Blackburn/Preston size of club with comparable levels of success

In terms of success, you could argue that historically there isn't much to choose between Burnley, Blackburn and Bolton but we're actually a better supported club than any of the ones you mentioned. Historically only Utd and City have better gates than us in the immediate area.

 

[Skashion]

You're 'having a go' at all small clubs. Like it or not teams like Wigan, Bolton, Blackpool and even the mighty Burnley, don't have queues of supporters lining up to take their place if they decide not to go.

Bolton sold out their allocation for the League Cup final at Wembley when we were a Second Division club (and the allocation for a League Cup final is greater than that for an F.A. Cup final) but there's a big difference between selling an allocation for a semi-final at Wembley and a final. That's something you don't appear able to grasp.

Erm, no I'm not, stop grasping at straws because I'm doing the exact opposite in sticking up for small clubs who haven't had cash injections. I'm having a go at two very specific clubs, well three with QPR.

How did you do for your last playoff final by the way? In 2001 wasn't it? Attendance 54,328? How many of those did you sell? 36k like Burnley did? 18k Preston fans, assuming no neutrals. Seems wrong to me...

 

[SpiritofBurnden]

You're 'having a go' at all small clubs. Like it or not teams like Wigan, Bolton, Blackpool and even the mighty Burnley, don't have queues of supporters lining up to take their place if they decide not to go.

Bolton sold out their allocation for the League Cup final at Wembley when we were a Second Division club (and the allocation for a League Cup final is greater than that for an F.A. Cup final) but there's a big difference between selling an allocation for a semi-final at Wembley and a final. That's something you don't appear able to grasp.

Erm, no I'm not, stop grasping at straws because I'm doing the exact opposite in sticking up for small clubs who haven't had cash injections. I'm having a go at two very specific clubs, well three with QPR.

How did you do for your last playoff final by the way? In 2001 wasn't it? Attendance 54,328? How many of those did you sell? 36k like Burnley did? 18k Preston fans, assuming no neutrals. Seems wrong to me...

Cash injections are a bad thing then? Or only when other clubs get them?

Our play-off final wasn't played at Wembley, so neither team got a '36K' allocation.

 

[BlueKingEll]

Bolton sold out their allocation for the League Cup final at Wembley when we were a Second Division club (and the allocation for a League Cup final is greater than that for an F.A. Cup final)



I know, I went on my Uncles lifeline membership thingie, along with another 3 City fans in the family - Wembley was a rarity for us Bolton Blues back then

 

[Deleted member 52846]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22097080

Wigan Athletic have so far failed to sell at least 10,000 of their allocated tickets for Saturday's FA Cup semi-final against Millwall.

This has prompted the FA to take the unprecedented step of opening a zone for neutral fans.

Both clubs were allocated just over 31,000 tickets for the game.

While the Championship club are expected to sell their full complement, Premier League side Wigan are struggling to sell their section.

Just a few decades ago Wigan were Alty's big rivals in the Conference. Whilst the Lancashire town was in close proximity to Bolton Blackburn Preston Everton Liverpool City United, Christ even Oldham, who were bigger clubs.

Wigan have risen over the decades to the top league and have decent crowds of 14-18000 considering their history and other local clubs. Give them a generation and maybe some of the glory hunters' kids might start to follow Wigan and they can really start to build their fanbase.

Give em a chance, eh?

Plus a few things to remember: we didn't sell out our allocation for the 2011 Community Shield and Rags were saying the same thing about us that you are about Wigan; and this is a semi-final that they should win and they will have to make sure they have money for the final too. Wembley can set you back anything from £150 if you're being really careful with your money and £250-750 depending on how much money you're prepared to spend.

Wigan have had a history like Bury and they just about break the 2000 attendance mark. Wigan had an average attendance of 6000 for about forty years, now they're taking 22000 to Wembley. Give them another forty years and they might be building a second tier on their main stand and will be viewed with more respect than you're showing them.

 

[Skashion]

Cash injections are a bad thing then? Or only when other clubs get them?

Our play-off final wasn't played at Wembley, so neither team got a '36K' allocation.

Oh the irony that you were telling me to read the thread earlier... Answered this question twice now, in great detail.

There were 20,000 empty seats at the Millennium Stadium so don't give me that guff. Just tell me how many you took down and whether you sold out. Although with 20,000 empty seats it seems a bit superfluous. If you wanted/could have filled them, you would have.