Will injuries cost us?

[waspish]

It's cost us from after our 5th game

 

[Steve68]

When we have spent as much money as we have over the last few years we can't blame injuries for anything.

We just haven't spent as wisely as we needed to nor shifted players that needed shifting.

 

[bluemoonmatt]

Very strong side tonight and at the weekend. Weak excuse, all sides get bouts of injuries.

It was a strong side but its not a weak excuse when you compare one clubs list with ours. We have had injuries to our best striker, our best midfielder, our best defender now our best goalie and the latter apart (as we don't know timescales) they have all been lengthy absences ie not just a game or two. I hope to god Hart ain't gonna be out ages, Cabbalero is a clown

 

[MeatHunterrr]

When we have spent as much money as we have over the last few years we can't blame injuries for anything.

We just haven't spent as wisely as we needed to nor shifted players that needed shifting.

in a nutshell

 

[SPIDERBOY]

Get Eva Carneiro in.....don't recall Chelsea doing much rotation or suffering from too many injuries last season,she must of been doing summat right or they were just lucky.

 

[argyle]

Our fitness team needs looking out. Not right that so many players are out with muscle injuries.

Things can't be fully blamed on injuries though. We can't legislate for a £50m player missing from 4 yards out.

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

Despite all the injuries , we have been top of the premiership for most of the season , we qualified for champs league with 2 games to spare , in another group of death , and we have an excellent chance of a League Cup Semi-Final appearance .
Which premiership club is doing as well ?

Arsenal , out of league cup , and have to win a difficult game away from home to qualify for champs league , and have only managed top 4 in the premiership .
Rags , out of league cup , as above for champs league , have been top of the premiership for a few days at most
Chelski , out of league cup , not yet qualified for champs league and having a terrible premiership season
Dippers , in league cup , struggling in mid table in the premiership , and loving the europa league and all the kudos that brings

The tone of some of the posts on this forum is quite unneccassary, constructive criticism is acceptable , out and out abuse of players and management is simply childish. MP does have mitigating circumstances because of injuries to our very best players , regretfully he has made tactical and selection mistakes , all managers do , we have played 20 odd games and only one team has turned us over (Not Spurs , Willy gifted them a goal, then they scored two blatant offside goals, we were the better team at half time , don't believe the hype) the dippers our worst performance of the season by a mile

Give the managers and players a break , they have done OK to keep in contention with the horrendous injury situation , we will get our best players back , and we can then start to enjoy the team at its best , with VK,Zabs,Silva,Aguero match fit , andl flying , no one can touch us in the premiership and only Barca and Bayern would bother me in europe.

You can accuse me of being a happy clapper , or maybe i do not need the football club to be my emotional crutch ,(an accusation we have thrown at rag fans for decades,their sad little lives only becoming bearable in the reflection of their trophy winning teams) ) get behind the f*cking team.

 

[City_Sean]

In some respects I don't buy the injury excuse.

Our front four Saturday was

Navas, De Bruyne, Sterling
Aguero

We've got injuries yes, but this squad has cost us a fortune.

 

[Hart of the Matter]

The injuries impact in two additional ways...
1. Not being able to establish a settled line up, especially defence
2. Not being able to rest fit players leading to more injuries.
Result is a tipping point into a downward spiral which we have got into. Even the strongest squads will suffer as a result.

 

[Father Paul]

Despite all the injuries , we have been top of the premiership for most of the season , we qualified for champs league with 2 games to spare , in another group of death , and we have an excellent chance of a League Cup Semi-Final appearance .
Which premiership club is doing as well ?

Arsenal , out of league cup , and have to win a difficult game away from home to qualify for champs league , and have only managed top 4 in the premiership .
Rags , out of league cup , as above for champs league , have been top of the premiership for a few days at most
Chelski , out of league cup , not yet qualified for champs league and having a terrible premiership season
Dippers , in league cup , struggling in mid table in the premiership , and loving the europa league and all the kudos that brings

The tone of some of the posts on this forum is quite unneccassary, constructive criticism is acceptable , out and out abuse of players and management is simply childish. MP does have mitigating circumstances because of injuries to our very best players , regretfully he has made tactical and selection mistakes , all managers do , we have played 20 odd games and only one team has turned us over (Not Spurs , Willy gifted them a goal, then they scored two blatant offside goals, we were the better team at half time , don't believe the hype) the dippers our worst performance of the season by a mile

Give the managers and players a break , they have done OK to keep in contention with the horrendous injury situation , we will get our best players back , and we can then start to enjoy the team at its best , with VK,Zabs,Silva,Aguero match fit , andl flying , no one can touch us in the premiership and only Barca and Bayern would bother me in europe.

You can accuse me of being a happy clapper , or maybe i do not need the football club to be my emotional crutch ,(an accusation we have thrown at rag fans for decades,their sad little lives only becoming bearable in the reflection of their trophy winning teams) ) get behind the f*cking team.

Agree that there is probably too much negativity about the place but while there are positives as you mention a lot of serious concerns remain and wishful thinking won't address them. To explain away some of the performances as the outcome of the injury situation or bad refs is too simplistic. I'm praying that we go on a run well into January and everyboby is happy and clappy!!

 

[Marvin]

When we have spent as much money as we have over the last few years we can't blame injuries for anything.

We just haven't spent as wisely as we needed to nor shifted players that needed shifting.

We started the season on fire then when Kompany, Aguero and Silva got injuries we started to slip. That's not a coincidence

What has made it worse is that the fringe players who you'd expect to come in have also got injured eg Nasri, and Mangala

The numbers aren't a big deal, but it's the players affected - all our top players. Where would Arsenal be without Sanchez, or Utd without De Gea. There are 2-3 players who are key to any team, and this season we've lost our key players all at the same time.

It maybe bad luck, but it would be wise to review the training regime. I think we should also look at the Summer training. For example we lost Delph to an injury hour after he gets off a 24 hour flight to Australia. City invest fortunes in players, and if you look at the league table and success we've done that better than anyone else, but it would cost a fraction to get the best qualified exercise scientists in just to go through our regime with the pre-existing people.

 

[Marvin]

In some respects I don't buy the injury excuse.

Our front four Saturday was

Navas, De Bruyne, Sterling
Aguero

We've got injuries yes, but this squad has cost us a fortune.

Spearheaded by a player who wasn't able to complete 90 minutes and with Bony also out

Saturday v Liverpool was undermined by cheap careless goals. Toure ambling in midfield leaving 35 or 36 year old Demichelis exposed. The forwards then had to break through a packed and very committed Liverpool team. Silly mistakes and weakness at the back made it very difficult for the team going forward as Liverpool could just dictate the game.

 

[Steve68]

We started the season on fire then when Kompany, Aguero and Silva got injuries we started to slip. That's not a coincidence

What has made it worse is that the fringe players who you'd expect to come in have also got injured eg Nasri, and Mangala

The numbers aren't a big deal, but it's the players affected - all our top players. Where would Arsenal be without Sanchez, or Utd without De Gea. There are 2-3 players who are key to any team, and this season we've lost our key players all at the same time.

It maybe bad luck, but it would be wise to review the training regime. I think we should also look at the Summer training. For example we lost Delph to an injury hour after he gets off a 24 hour flight to Australia. City invest fortunes in players, and if you look at the league table and success we've done that better than anyone else, but it would cost a fraction to get the best qualified exercise scientists in just to go through our regime with the pre-existing people.

True and excellent points. But my point was injury prone players like Nasri, not good enough players like Kolorov and past it players like Demi should have been moved on. Toure also. Navas also. Mangala should never have been signed. We should by now be seeing some Academy success. Most of all we should have a dependable third choice striker. We should be playing with more energy.

When it comes down to it a club as rich as us, who has spent the money we have and invested as much as we have in young players should be able to cope with injuries to key players. Especially when we know these key players have a problem with injuries. Poor old Silva gets so battered I'm surprised he isn't out more often.

We are doing okay even so but it still looks like for all the money there's not the strength in depth or character that there should be.

 

[warringtonblue]

What worries me most, is that when certain players are injured (Kompany, Zabaleta,Silva) no one else leads by example, grabs the game by the scruff of the neck or gives out some verbals to rally the troops. Too many stand around looking for someone else to do it. Last night was a great example of this, for all the stick he gets, at least Yaya made himself available most of the time (and I know them stupid shots were wank) but he was about the only one
There seems to be a mentality problem with us, thinking that at certain times we only need to turn up and the points are in the bag. For all we slag them off, that was a piss poor United team that last won the league but they just did the basics most of the time

 

[HolisticJim]

Both Otamendi and DeBruyne missed our fantastic pre-season tour.
We've been managing our team like an international circus for two seasons.
Players NEED at least three weeks in the same place during pre-season to build strenght and stamina.

That's why we get so many injuries, that's why pretty much all team run a lot more than us.

And you have to wonder if that ridiclious tours are what is hurting us. There just not getting a rest.

Season before this JM had preseason and didn't take Chelsea away citing they needed to prepare for the league. They ultimately won the league with minimal injuries.

 

[wattle]

Nope. Assembling an overrated squad. Inability to replace half-arsed and injured players. Handing out monster contracts to average players, such as Kolarov, Nasri and Dzeko.Showing a complete lack of sense in player recruitment by not addressing Central Midfield.
Your ambition is certainly not winning the CL, if you go out and buy players like Sterling and Bony. As somone else said, considering the amount we have spent, we should have had a galactico team by now.

With respect Sam that's bullshit.
Kompany, silva, Aguero and zabaleta all missed most of season so far. Add to that nasri, Delph, clichy and bony also missed most of it. Any team would struggle. Take Messi, pique, Suarez and Alves, alba and mascerano out of barca and they'd struggle. Our first choice team and bench is practically as good as anyones but it has never happened. Doesn't matter what you've spent if all your best players and best back ups are constantly injured then you've no chance. Without them we're Everton, West ham standard

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

Agree that there is probably too much negativity about the place but while there are positives as you mention a lot of serious concerns remain and wishful thinking won't address them. To explain away some of the performances as the outcome of the injury situation or bad refs is too simplistic. I'm praying that we go on a run well into January and everyboby is happy and clappy!!

far too much negativity , but to be fair , most of the abuse of players etc , is in the post match forum or just after a match and invariably after a poor result the knee jerkers come out in force , i just dont see the point in calling MP a c*nt ,tw*t old f8cker. No doubt injuries and ref decisions do not explain all our indifferent performances , but we have hit the low point in our season , with the capitulation against the dippers , hopefully that is the kick up the arse the team needs

 

[MillisleBlue]

Yep. I've got used to Komps, Spanish Dave and Sergio missing chunks of the season injured either having the shit kicked out of them at Goodison or at some mickey mouse International friendly. But, even by our standards, Bony and Delph were special as they'd hardly kicked a ball but were already injured FFS. A few more injuries and we'll be lucky if we've 11 first team players available. I can only think of 2 teams - Barca & Munchen who could cope with having most of their star players crocked at the same time.

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

With respect Sam that's bullshit.
Kompany, silva, Aguero and zabaleta all missed most of season so far. Add to that nasri, Delph, clichy and bony also missed most of it. Any team would struggle. Take Messi, pique, Suarez and Alves, alba and mascerano out of barca and they'd struggle. Our first choice team and bench is practically as good as anyones but it has never happened. Doesn't matter what you've spent if all your best players and best back ups are constantly injured then you've no chance. Without them we're Everton, West ham standard

Good post , virtually every game this season we have had 6 or 7 players unavailable , it was bound to take its toll.

 

[higgi1p]

What baffles me is why are we always getting the same two injuries over and over ie: Hamstrings and calf, is the warm up a problem or not being done properly ?