Will they fire Mancini?

[twinkletoes]

This is getting ridiculous.

Now the players are potentially going on strike!

 

[Scareye]

The owners won't be too worried per se if we don't win the league. They recognise it's a competition and that we're still a work in progress & we can't win every game.

However they will be looking at our away record (which is W2 D2 L4 in the last 8 games) and be asking Mancini what he is going to do about improving that. If his answer is something like "We deserved to win but have been a bit unlucky" then he'll be sacked. Apart from Balotelli, not many in the dressing room would be too bothered by that which makes me even wonder if our players aren't "doing a Chelsea".

...aside from the obvious exception the squad is behind the manager...

And the evidence for this is?

Perhaps a better example was Ron Saunders, who was actively disliked by the City players. They wanted Book in charge so they effectively went on strike, losing so many games that the board felt it had little choice but to accede to their wishes.

Are you honestly suggesting that certain players are so desperate for the manager to fail they aren't putting 100% in?

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

certain players are definately not trying to their full capacity, and it's not on.

If Mancini can't get them to die for the shirt, and can't get them to bounce back and win the league, after already going through the farce of January, then serious questions have to be asked.

The only way we're going to get better is by Mancini accepting his flaws in our squad and creating a plan B that utilises pace and wingers from out wide.

Unfortunately, I don't think ADUG are going to give him the £100-150m he'll need to strengthen our squad to the suitable level, and RVP isn't the answer imo.

Being a bit hard on Mancini here, I feel?

There are very few managers who have the capacity to inspire blind devotion and trust in the greater good.

Ferguson and Mourinho are the only ones in my lifetime where you actually see the team as an extension of their manager.

Call it bloody-mindedness if you want.

I know for a fact Mancini actively encourages creative tension, believing it benefits players.

But it can cause resentment in some. I don't believe any player has downed tools.

I am of the belief that some players have been allowed to drop their levels, including Aguero and Silva, for too long a period.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

...aside from the obvious exception the squad is behind the manager...

And the evidence for this is?

Perhaps a better example was Ron Saunders, who was actively disliked by the City players. They wanted Book in charge so they effectively went on strike, losing so many games that the board felt it had little choice but to accede to their wishes.

Are you honestly suggesting that certain players are so desperate for the manager to fail they aren't putting 100% in?

I'm not saying they are. I'm asking if it could be the case.

But if they are and our squad of experienced, highly-paid, international players felt that their manager isn't getting the best out of them then would you be worried?

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Please God, no! And PLEASE God - NOT Mourinho! Who would want to watch the utter shite his teams play and the way they kick the crap out of the opposition if the go behind. Anti-football that prick of a poseur!

Don't watch much football then?

The Real Madrid team I have watched this season don't tend to go behind all that often it has to be said.

I actually think they could win Champs League this season.

and when they do they by and large still win, and have scored far more goals than anybody else this season and are cruising at the top of La Liga.

Now ask yourself, would you rather be us and beat your rivals a la Barca but not be top of the league, or lose to them a la Madrid but be top of the league?

as for the shite football, against Barca yes, against everyone else? They've scored 122 goals in all competitions this season.<br /><br />-- Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:43 am --<br /><br />

certain players are definately not trying to their full capacity, and it's not on.

If Mancini can't get them to die for the shirt, and can't get them to bounce back and win the league, after already going through the farce of January, then serious questions have to be asked.

The only way we're going to get better is by Mancini accepting his flaws in our squad and creating a plan B that utilises pace and wingers from out wide.

Unfortunately, I don't think ADUG are going to give him the £100-150m he'll need to strengthen our squad to the suitable level, and RVP isn't the answer imo.

Being a bit hard on Mancini here, I feel?

There are very few managers who have the capacity to inspire blind devotion and trust in the greater good.

Ferguson and Mourinho are the only ones in my lifetime where you actually see the team as an extension of their manager.

Call it bloody-mindedness if you want.

if David Silva can trundle around and be that shite yesterday after a similarly poor performance in Lisbon then Mancini isn't getting enough out of the players.

it's simple as, we also had 2 chances to put Bolton and Blackburn to the humiliating sword and we didn't.

 

[There is a Light]

I'm not saying they are. I'm asking if it could be the case.

Can I answer it?

I really don't think it could be the case.

They all want the title IMO and they are not playing games when holding top spot for five months.

 

[St Ives blue]

I hope we keep hold of Mancini, would make a mockery of the project if he were to be sacked for coming 2nd. As has been mentioned previously, if Mourinho was brought in it would be like starting again with new players/coaches etc, so we then wouldn't be expecting to win the league next season either!
Lets have a bit of consistency and win the thing next season (assuming we don't this season!!)

 

[jay_mcfc]

The owners won't be too worried per se if we don't win the league. They recognise it's a competition and that we're still a work in progress & we can't win every game.

However they will be looking at our away record (which is W2 D2 L4 in the last 8 games) and be asking Mancini what he is going to do about improving that. If his answer is something like "We deserved to win but have been a bit unlucky" then he'll be sacked. Apart from Balotelli, not many in the dressing room would be too bothered by that which makes me even wonder if our players aren't "doing a Chelsea".

...aside from the obvious exception the squad is behind the manager...

And the evidence for this is?

Perhaps a better example was Ron Saunders, who was actively disliked by the City players. They wanted Book in charge so they effectively went on strike, losing so many games that the board felt it had little choice but to accede to their wishes.

You're talking out of your fucking arse. You're a mod but you should be banned for this kind of shit.

It makes no sense whatsoever. A club top of the league with players that have mostly been bought by said manager go on strike so the manager gets sacked? Absolute bullshit.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I hope we keep hold of Mancini, would make a mockery of the project if he were to be sacked for coming 2nd. As as been mentioned previously, if Mourinho was brought in it would be like starting again with new players/coaches etc, so we then wouldn't be expecting to win the league next season.

But he won't be sacked simply for coming second. He will be sacked though if the owners don't feel he can do better than 2nd. And as for Mourinho, he came in and took Ranieri's team that came 2nd straight to 2 consecutive and emphatic titles.

If ADUG were totally convinced of Mancini's ability to win the PL/CL, there would have been a contract on the table, signed by now. The simple fact is there isn't suggests they are still open-minded or have doubts.

 

[Scareye]

And the evidence for this is?

Perhaps a better example was Ron Saunders, who was actively disliked by the City players. They wanted Book in charge so they effectively went on strike, losing so many games that the board felt it had little choice but to accede to their wishes.

Are you honestly suggesting that certain players are so desperate for the manager to fail they aren't putting 100% in?

I'm not saying they are. I'm asking if it could be the case.

But if they are and our squad of experienced, highly-paid, international players felt that their manager isn't getting the best out of them then would you be worried?

I would be both angry and worried to be honest.
I do think however that it would possibly be another instance of highly paid sportsman blaming anything and everything other than themselves, for below par performances!!