Will you attend City games if we join a European Super League?

[SidJames]

I disagree. Love him or hate him, you could see the anger and the passion as Neville spoke. It really would not have made a difference if united were top. He just said what 99% of football fans are feeling tonight, the fact his own club are involved just made it easier for him to be heard. And, in all honesty, the way I feel right now, I'd quite happily take City being deducted points, and losing the title, if it meant an end to this selfish, greedy, despicable project.

Hear,hear.

Agree 100%.

Fuck this sod you Jack,i am alright Super League shit.Selfish ,greedy bastards the lot of them.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

But they wouldn't give a toss if 5000 or 50000 fans turned up for a match, they don't need the gate receipts, it's all about the TV deals and sponsorship

And we've heard from empty stadiums during Covid that a 50k crowd can be summoned up with the appropriate oohs 'n aahs crowbarred into the matches. They don't need our money, they don't need fans inside the stadium and it won't matter if the chips ran out before HT. Wonder how they would view the immediate drop in shirt sales and the like. In fact, I might have bought my last one!

 

[bluebanana83]

So...Brantingham Road it is. Maine Road may have to build a bigger stand!

if domestic football goes by the way side I won’t be on board. It’ll be Maine Road Fc

 

[Eoiyflem]

It's a fucking disgrace this, blues. And a massive missed opportunity for us to say "no, get fucked" and really show the world that we're still a club that cares about our people and even our lower league neighbours survival. But instead we've gone with the SNAKES who have been trying to put us out of business for the past 10 years (these cunts have been the puppet masters for uefa until now in our investigations). What a fucking shite weekend. I'm fuming tbh. Shower of fucking greedy bastards the lot of them

 

[jitsubluedan]

Dont you just love how Rags and dippers are blaming us and PSG. Why can't they see what's in front of their noses. Revenues higher than ours but they cant spend money on player investment yet we can. Whys that? I know that's the first question I'd be asking myself before just jumping onto a social network and media bandwagon.

Spot on. This is about American owners wanting to remain at the top table but without having to invest in their teams to actually compete to be there.

I’m disappointed that City are connected to this but they’re caught between a rock and a hard place.

If this super league goes ahead a lot of the TV money will go with it. The PL will lose its attractiveness - can’t see sly and bt paying the same premium for games involving those teams left behind because they won’t have the same ‘pull’ for their global audience.

If City make a stand and stay, they could lose a large chunk of their revenue.

Hopefully, the PL, FA and UEFA will apply enough pressure to make it untenable but if not, I’ll sadly be joining quite a few on here and giving up my season card.

 

[otherwise]

Fans of all Clubs are on the same page about these proposals it seems.

I think these 6 Clubs, including ours, have seriously misread their fan base.Or simply didn't give a shit about fans opinions to start with.

playing each other every few weeks.

Then will come the Americanization for US audiences, the game becoming 4 quarters to fit in shit loads of Add Breaks for our American owners sponsors.

It is bad enough on Sky /BT.

You can almost guarantee not only will we get the game consisting of 4 Quarters,we will get rolling adds across the screen from the main sponsors every few minutes. at every break in play.

Just like US TV.

on american feeds for city games they already have a lot of extra advertising- sponsors for the time clock etc.
the only thing that isn't really done in american sports is a shirt sponsor(s).

the closed league is really loudly saying we want to be able to be total shite and still rake in the cash. that's very american.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

This is a PR disaster for the club. It won't have any much, if any, support from fans and ultimately, without the fans it won't work.

The proposals ignore the essentially most exciting part of football: promotion, relegation and winning trophies. An invitation only league with no relegation goes against every single tenet of why league football is exciting. It's astonishing that they've not considered this. It shows that this isn't about sporting excellence, it's about money. It's about making more money than they currently can do and making so much money that it's almost impossible for "old PL" players to turn down.

This is bringing to a head the process which started with the PL. Prior to the PL, most clubs were run by well-meaning local men. Clubs that were once rooted and anchored in their local towns and cities became commodities that could be bought, sold and traded across the world. We've seen it perfectly how Swales, a local lad done well, has ended up being replaced by a disgraced ex-PM of Thailand and eventually by the Sheikh.

After the PL, the influx of money started to distort the game and when teams found they could raise significant amounts of money on the markets. I agree with Gary Neville that money in sport isn't a bad thing as such, but it's getting to be too much of a part of it. Let's be absolutely honest, it's absolutely impossible for anyone to break into the top 4 and stay there without a vast amount of money. It's been designed this way. Once you're in the CL every year, the money you get is vast and it allows you to effectively take a "free player" from outside the top 4.

Of course, the Sheikh has run the club immaculately and his investment has not only benefitted City fans but everyone in Manchester who's seen east Manchester regenerated. However, it also raises an important point: is a football club just the same as a company or is it something different - a cultural artefact.

I think we have lost sight of the fact that football clubs are not businesses. They are cultural artefacts handed down to us to treasure and pass on to our descendants.

Quite simply, the proposals are the fact that the people who own the clubs want even more money. They want to grab not just a national market but a European or international market. They are taking Manchester City out of Manchester and making it almost a franchise that is Manchester in name only. This is the same for United and Liverpool etc as well. Football clubs are not, primarily businesses, they are as important to countries as cathedrals, civic buildings, music, the NHS and BBC etc. They are based in the working people of this country. It's about time we realised this and I hope these dreadful proposals help to make people think about what a football club is.

I sincerely hope the club has a long, hard think about how the proposals have been received. I hope they realise it's a mistake.

Great, great post!

 

[GoatersLeftShin]

But they wouldn't give a toss if 5000 or 50000 fans turned up for a match, they don't need the gate receipts, it's all about the TV deals and sponsorship

I think you're right to a great extent @Fordyboy46 and I daresay that it's something said behind closed doors, certainly not in public.

However, what the lockdown has demonstrated is that football isn't just about 22 players on the pitch. Take the fans away and it's not the same. A game of football beamed around the world in an empty stadium isn't the same as City v United in a PL decider. Anfield, Elland Rd, Old Trafford, St James and the Etihad just don't feel intimidating without fans.

Now, I'm sure people will say "in China they love it, in Nigeria they love it" but if it's not loved in England then the clubs become rootless. Without roots, they will die.

 

[jrb]

Time for City's tame fan base to protest. Time we made it clear to Mansour, Khaldoon, and Soriano we want no part of this.

 

[Shaggy]