Wolves (H) - Post-Match Thread

[elbearos]

I think that game ended in a 1-1 draw mate. It was at Wolves about 4 years ago. Odd fellows has named the “goal scorer”

I thought it was 2-1,this getting old lark!...

 

[HarrytheBlue]

Wolves at best are a midtable team playing the champions of England.

What do you want them to do? Play an open attacking game and get hammered?

They do what they can, all that matters to them is to get to 40 points as quickly as possible and then build on that.

Hang on a minute. Wolves have some pretty decent players and a decent coach. Free hit. Park the bus and hope for a lucky break in the last few minutes or have a go at certain points in the game, risk a heavy defeat, but at least trust their ability. We all know that even the worst semi-pro player is outstanding by any normal measure compared to amateur. I'm pretty sure that not a single Prem player became footballers on £100k a week to appear in front of the planet playing anti-football. What's worse is Cristiano Utd, Liverpool and Chelsea doing it.

 

[its grim up north]

Didn't Wolves beat City with a handball winner recently?

Offside before he handled it in.

 

[HarrytheBlue]

Good post fella, well balanced & I’m sure you’ll all agree Moss ruined that game, your players where allowed to push the boundaries too far in my opinion which in turn cost you in the end as a poor referee will always look to level up, add the fact Moss had already booked 2 City players for breaking up play on the half way line & you have the answer as to why a yellow was issued. It’s been discussed at length on ere how our players get booked for our first foul, and despite having 70% plus possession & less fouls per game (quite considerably) most games, we end up with more cards, Cancelo of all people will now serve a ban for 5 yellows, none of which he even left the ground, which is aided & abetted by a media narrative of tactical fouls. Interested to get your take on the Kilman handball & Ait Nouri foul on Raz (which is a 100% pen) ? City fans saw Wolves as a breath of fresh air and one time hoped you’d upset the apple cart & challenge for a CL place, I’d see some of the comments as more of a disappointed father who’d hoped his son would follow him into business but ended up petty pilfering (stealing time) instead. No need to feck off either fella, it’s always refreshing to get another teams fans opinions, stick around. Interesting thoughts on Chinese ¥¥¥¥ as we also have investors (think it’s about 13%) from there

Spot on.

 

[ancoats]

Would be elated to see a pure goalscorer in this team. Big as his chin is, I still think Harry would bag 40+ a season, but Haaland is the one (for me anyways).

Fingers crossed that has been/is being addressed, because it hurts my eyes and my soul to see us spurn the amount of chances we do.

its getting same old same old with city ? its down the wing's then nobody in the back.
we need somebody in the middle that can hold the ball up and play down the middle more because other teams have worked us out

 

[Gray]

May I offer my views as a Wolves fan in peace? Then I will fuck off (:-.

Wolves do have a fundamental problem which is driving our own fans nuts - we do not have any attacking central midfielders....we have Neves, Dendonkey (who is basically a central defender turned midfielder), and 35 year Joao Moutinho whose legs have gone but still battles manfully. I genuinely don't think it is the current managers preferred style as he is known for being an attacking coach, but we just do not have the players who are mobile enough, and no new players (other than a couple of loans) have been brought in since he was appointed so he is in effect playing Nuno-ball still. We were seconds away from acquiring Sanches from Lille in the summer but withdrew due to his injury record. But such a player would transform us if fit, but we have known this for nearly 2 years so its our own fault really. We all wonder whether the lack of new players is down to it now being a bit political in that Chinese Govt are now saying 'no expenditure' to western football owners due to the political climate between China and the West. Nevertheless we are still hoping for a January purchase to dramatically change our formation as we have such a small squad, also the likes of Jonny, Neto, Boly are key players who are long term injured. Our bench yesterday was unplayed teenagers mainly. But I think the manager came with a defensive plan undoubtedly, I suppose it is anti-football but if it continues the team it will hurt more than anyone else is ourselves WWFC. But the counter point is that until Jimenez got himself stupidly sent off, I felt we were doing quite well, though City I felt,would probably score sooner or later with long range shooting. But how can you match City with their fabulous range of players? If you take them on at their own game you will get slaughtered. Furthermore, Traore is an enigma, he barely moves until on the ball then he explodes, but he doesnt seem to have the ability to move off the ball in anticipation of moves, in contrast, every City player is always moving around and it is wonderful to watch their flair and movement.

Time wasting? I'm not sure, possibly yes slowing the game down, but the Kilman- Neves injury for 7 minutes (?)was totally unintended and Sterling did catch Saiss in the eye as he has that uniquely weird running style where he sticks his arms out high (if you slow down the footage you can see he clearly does). But Saiss is the one Wolves player who goes down easily I admit, and I don't like that. Re: Jimenez, he doesnt even catch the city defender to get booked (if you look at the footage) but at that very point City fans were getting on the back of John Moss so he very unfairly booked Raul (in my opinion) due to fan pressure (we all do it), but he was then stupid beyond extreme to block the free kick and in that respect deserved the sending off. The other key decision was the penalty, it clearly hit his torso but I'm not sure whether its possible to tell whether it also hits his underarm in that moment. He was asking for it having his arm raised I suppose. Either way, City deserved the win undoubtedly, even though not firing on all cyclinders, even though I feel we were hard done by on key decisions. But we all see it our own way. Sterling, in our eyes, was constantly diving and going down too easily looking for decisions and getting at the ref, but you will probably feel he was being fouled.

Undoubtedly, if Wolves continue like this then our reputation will be deserved, so I hope we do something about it in January because its pretty dire but then I love the effort of all of them and defensively Kilman, Coady, Saiss (who cost a 'combined' £5m) are doing wonders and are each brilliant lads. But Neves needs more mobile players around him in midfield. Love Neves to bits, tho he deserves a move to a bigger club sadly, now our financial tap seems to have been turned off in the past 2 years. Oh well we had 3 great seasons.

Ok, I will feck off now, best of luck, I know some Wolves fans can be one-eyed, biased twats (aren't we all), but 99% of us would genuinely very much prefer City to win the Premierships than either of those hateful clubs wearing red.

Sterling seems to have an inner ear problem, he is always falling over. As for the Jimenez first yellow card, Moss had to give it fot the grab as he had just booked two City players for equally trivial fouls.

You got away with a blatant handball just before half time, so I for one will tAke the one we were given.

I hope you get to see some football from your team this season, because what we saw from them yesterday certainly wasn’t.

 

[Millo]

It's time Grealish was dropped, £100m or not. There is no end product with his play. He missed a hatful of chances last weekend and another sitter yesterday. It is games like this against stubborn defensive opposition where we really need a top class striker.

 

[Jesus H Gabz]

That was Bournemouth away I think.
seen the game again and we should have had a pen at the end of the first half for handball. The Jesus incident earlier would have been given if it was Salah. Sterling should have had two in the second half. Second one was an absolute stonewall so again not sure what VAR looks at. First one on him just as blatant. Commentary actually says that Sterling was pulled back but defender let go just in time! Obviously a new law I was unfamiliar with. So definitely should have had three that weren’t given and possibly a fourth. Club should be sending these clips to Riley and asking what is going on especially when you see penalties for other clubs being given.

That law was introduced after the dippers game when Ruben gave Salah a tug & he pirouetted in the air, wonder if they thought he’d let go ‘Just’ in time

 

[chaddblue]

Sterling seems to have an inner ear problem, he is always falling over. As for the Jimenez first yellow card, Moss had to give it fot the grab as he had just booked two City players for equally trivial fouls.

You got away with a blatant handball just before half time, so I for one will tAke the one we were given.

I hope you get to see some football from your team this season, because what we saw from them yesterday certainly wasn’t.

I particularly liked their continuous tactic from goal kicks where the keeper tapped it sideways to that scouse carthorse who lumped it aimlessly up the pitch as far as he could

I’ve seen more imagination from Sunday league pub teams

 

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

Way back in 1986 I remember a reporter for one of the "qualities" explaining that what we were witnessing in the world cup was "los bastardos football". His definition was the application of the principles of team work to cheating. If one player hacks an opponent down four times he gets a yellow and risks more - so four players hack him down once each they escape without sanction. Yesterday we saw the point los bastardos football has reached after 35 years refinement. A Wolves team dedicated to tapping ankles, shirt grabbing, tripping, time wasting while at the same time injecting a degree of unpleasantness and contempt for opposition, fans and officials which is unprecedented in the PL. My prime concern was that los bastardos should wend their way back to Wolverhampton with precisely nothing to show for their disgraceful efforts. I hope Jimenez will face a charge for his display of time wasting AFTER his red card. And if you spend such a time trying to exploit the rules I'm actually glad that you lost to what you thought was a very dodgy penalty. And your manager had better realise that we enjoyed his fury since he must be at the back of that display.