Wolves - post match

[warringtonblue]

Chilwell? Did you watch Leicester's last two games? He's too slow.

Robertson is an outstanding full back. TAA can attack but he can't defend. At City and Liverpool TAA would not need to defend. I think Walker is good. I'm happy enough with Zinchenko. Mendy deserves time to recover.

Fullbacks don't worry me. We got 100 points and then a domestic treble with these full backs.

The only thing that cheers me up this evening is that our problem is so glaring that I know what it is and how to solve it, and so does Pep. It's just get Laporte fit. That's it.

You think a fit Laporte will solve all outer current problems?

 

[warringtonblue]

Down to 10 men. Marking an absolute speed merchant after missing two years.

This isn't Sunday league mate. A percent or two off and the lights go out quick.

We will have to agree to disagree on this one

 

[Father Paul]

We face a period of transition.

Brought about mostly by bad planning,and epic bad signings.

Is Pep the man for the job ?,more importantly does Pep want to be the man for the job ?.

Lets face it...Pep has looked mostly disinterested this season,in my opinion this has trickled down to the team.His in game management has raised our Eye brows a few times.Did his wife returning to Spain affect his mental health ?,you have to wonder if this has affected him.

It is not all doom and gloom though.We have had 2 great season no mater what happens.

If Pep is not prepared to commit long term,or if our owners do have doubts he will ever deliver them the Champions League.What better time to act than at the beginning of a major squad rebuild.

No point giving Pep say £500,000 000 the end of this season,to see him leave 12 months later.

I will always be thankful for the success Pep has delivered.At the end of the day though City owe him nothing.He has been paid handsomely for delivering us success.If the Club decides it would rather have a new manager on a 5 year deal for the rebuild,than retaining Pep on a rolling 1 year contract i am cool with it.

League is done this Season.Now is the time to start the rebuild on the Pitch,out with the dead wood,and in with the future like Foden/Garcia

We face a period of transition.

Brought about mostly by bad planning,and epic bad signings.

Is Pep the man for the job ?,more importantly does Pep want to be the man for the job ?.

Lets face it...Pep has looked mostly disinterested this season,in my opinion this has trickled down to the team.His in game management has raised our Eye brows a few times.Did his wife returning to Spain affect his mental health ?,you have to wonder if this has affected him.

It is not all doom and gloom though.We have had 2 great season no mater what happens.

If Pep is not prepared to commit long term,or if our owners do have doubts he will ever deliver them the Champions League.What better time to act than at the beginning of a major squad rebuild.

No point giving Pep say £500,000 000 the end of this season,to see him leave 12 months later.

I will always be thankful for the success Pep has delivered.At the end of the day though City owe him nothing.He has been paid handsomely for delivering us success.If the Club decides it would rather have a new manager on a 5 year deal for the rebuild,than retaining Pep on a rolling 1 year contract i am cool with it.

League is done this Season.Now is the time to start the rebuild on the Pitch,out with the dead wood,and in with the future like Foden/Garcia

This is it really.Does he want to stay and do a job of work. Enough has been said without adding to it but after this game it is difficult to escape the conclusion we have become a soft touch and badly need a stabilising influence.

 

[paulsimpson]

I accept Mendy's apology. Mature people won't hang him out to dry. We should have at least got a result tonight. Got to find a winning pattern somehow. Consistency. An ugly win the odd time maybe? Back to some basics. A leader on the pitch will have to emerge Come on lads. Get some rest because we go again in under 48 hrs.

 

[PragueBlue]

The only thing that cheers me up this evening is that our problem is so glaring that I know what it is and how to solve it, and so does Pep. It's just get Laporte fit. That's it.

And get someone in of similar quality to partner him and stop it all going to pot when he isn't fit.

 

[Marvin]

I feel we’ll see a similar pattern to this in the second half of the season in the Premiership, even with the return of Laporte and, possibly, Sane: we’ll get some good wins against good opposition but we’ll probably lose another four or five games. I certainly don’t see any grounds at the moment to think we can go on a winning run of ten or more games. The efforts and achievements of the last two seasons have been phenomenal and a marvel - and privilege - to behold and though injuries have hardly helped our cause, this current squad, both individually and collectively, has its lost its way, has no leader and appears shellshocked by the relentless charge of the Dippers who look like eclipsing many of the records we have set. It was always going to be a tough, tough ask to win a third Premiership in a row but our efforts to defend it have been surprisingly lacking in belief, conviction and at times the quality - and qualities - which have brought such success. I don’t believe that this squad - which, as many on here have stated, is now in natural decline and in need of some serious rebuilding - can win the Champions League - even on a level playing field! - but still hope it can ‘sign off’ with a domestic cup - or two!

It's not in a natural decline at all. Where on Earth do you get that from?

The squad is young. The only old players are David Silva who is already effectively replaced and Aguero who imo has at least a season in him anyway.

Football fans who think City's days are done are making a massive mistake. City's central defence is rubbish. It's the worst it has ever been. That is the problem. It's easily fixed. Play last season's central defenders. Both are on the training pitch.

 

[HarrytheBlue]

I feel we’ll see a similar pattern to this in the second half of the season in the Premiership, even with the return of Laporte and, possibly, Sane: we’ll get some good wins against good opposition but we’ll probably lose another four or five games. I certainly don’t see any grounds at the moment to think we can go on a winning run of ten or more games. The efforts and achievements of the last two seasons have been phenomenal and a marvel - and privilege - to behold and though injuries have hardly helped our cause, this current squad, both individually and collectively, has its lost its way, has no leader and appears shellshocked by the relentless charge of the Dippers who look like eclipsing many of the records we have set. It was always going to be a tough, tough ask to win a third Premiership in a row but our efforts to defend it have been surprisingly lacking in belief, conviction and at times the quality - and qualities - which have brought such success. I don’t believe that this squad - which, as many on here have stated, is now in natural decline and in need of some serious rebuilding - can win the Champions League - even on a level playing field! - but still hope it can ‘sign off’ with a domestic cup - or two!

19 games in tells you how well your team plays over an extended period. But unless we get some more long term injuries, our squad will be stronger (more of our better players fit) in the last third of the season than has been the case so far.

 

[Esteban de la Sexface]

Chilwell? Did you watch Leicester's last two games? He's too slow.

Robertson is an outstanding full back. TAA can attack but he can't defend. At City and Liverpool TAA would not need to defend. I think Walker is good. I'm happy enough with Zinchenko. Mendy deserves time to recover.

Fullbacks don't worry me. We got 100 points and then a domestic treble with these full backs.

The only thing that cheers me up this evening is that our problem is so glaring that I know what it is and how to solve it, and so does Pep. It's just get Laporte fit. That's it.

Alexander Arnold can defend. He's very rarely caught out.

 

[Marvin]

And get someone in of similar quality to partner him and stop it all going to pot when he isn't fit.

Ideal is to have world-class cover in every position. It was just our luck that in the one position where we lacked cover we picked up an injury requiring knee surgery.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Chilwell? Did you watch Leicester's last two games? He's too slow.

Robertson is an outstanding full back. TAA can attack but he can't defend. At City and Liverpool TAA would not need to defend. I think Walker is good. I'm happy enough with Zinchenko. Mendy deserves time to recover.

Fullbacks don't worry me. We got 100 points and then a domestic treble with these full backs.

The only thing that cheers me up this evening is that our problem is so glaring that I know what it is and how to solve it, and so does Pep. It's just get Laporte fit. That's it.

Problems are deeper than that of course.

 

[Damanino]

Having Laporte back might give us bit more solid defence, might turn couple losses into draws, couple draws into wins, but still the pressing in general has gone to shit and the individual performances are just not hitting a good level. Basically everyone's is less consistent, 1 good game and 3-4 mediocre one seems like to be the way this season. Kun and Jesus both can go 3-4 games not scoring then they score a double or treble. Then they score 1 goal in 4 games again.

And our way of defending only works with heavy pressing, winning the ball back quickly to have more possession, to turn it into quick, surprise attacks and for them not to be able to run at our defence. and not losing balls 95% of the time. the way Sterling lost the ball before their first goal, then the way Mendy lost it for their 2nd goal...

We would see Laporte to struggle if there is not much help from midfield and lack of general pressing and if he would have players running at him with speed.

Van Dijk is great but they have workhorses in midfield with Henderson, Wijnaldum, Milner, Keita, Fabinho who are doing so much dirty work that we arent. and also high energy constant press from their front three and also the positioning of their midfielders to give freedom to fullbacks to go into bursting attacks without them being caught...

They would of course feel the injury of Van Dijk but they would feel much more if they stopped pressing and they would put two attacking midfieldrs in instead of Wijndaldum and Fabinho for example who wont track back and press much.

I am pretty sure something went wrong in the fitness department, maybe at pre season training, we hardly had friendly games, maybe 3 in total, but in some games we look knackered an this was there to see in October, November already. This December fixture madness will hardly help it with extra derby games in Carabao coming up too.

 

[PragueBlue]

You think a fit Laporte will solve all outer current problems?

A fully fit Laporte and Sane back would certainly make a huge difference I think.

 

[Indaparkside]

It's not in a natural decline at all. Where on Earth do you get that from?

The squad is young. The only old players are David Silva who is already effectively replaced and Aguero who imo has at least a season in him anyway.

Football fans who think City's days are done are making a massive mistake. City's central defence is rubbish. It's the worst it has ever been. That is the problem. It's easily fixed. Play last season's central defenders. Both are on the training pitch.

Have you forgot dinho nearly ready for his pension

 

[Marvin]

Alexander Arnold can defend. He's very rarely caught out.

That's a joke. His game is fantastic going forward but he can't defend. Often caught out of position. Even Liverpool fans will admit that.

 

[Cotswold Knight]

You have to look at a players contribution to the club in all games played. Anyone who has a go at ederson or sterling is a bit dim to be honest. Overall there are some players who we can put on the must do better list. There are too many for comfort at this stage. The signings in the summer should get a one season pass, Mendy stones ota are becoming a long term liability. Dinho is being shafted by a stubborn manager.

Yeah,when Garcia came on at the start of the second half I thought dinho was going into midfield how wrong was I

 

[Marvin]

Have you forgot dinho nearly ready for his pension

He's only playing because of injury.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

Alexander Arnold can defend. He's very rarely caught out.

He gets caught out quite a lot. It's the worst par of his game. Just he doesn't get pulled for the fouls that cover his defensive inabilities.

 

[hilts]

State of this bloody thread, havent managed to read it all as its growing faster than I can browse through it!!!! didnt realize we had such a lot of wet knickers as fans( though half of em probably sad dippers thieving our thread space)!!!!! Anyway, it never felt safe even at two nil up, and despite individual errors and losing, the team has to look forward now. With less than 48 hrs before we face Sheff utd its no good dwelling on tonight, even as we speak, I bet Peps thinking of ways to win that game. He wont be undermining his knackered players confidence by highlighting their frailties when they will be as dissapointed as anyone on here is.Whats done is done, you pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and try and win the next one, we now need to take each game as it comes one at a time, and see where it takes us. Its been a fcking brilliant journey recently, and tonight is a bump in the road, we still have a long way to go and a lot to look forward to over the next few seasons and beyond, so buckle up and fck everyone else.

I don’t think you get the thread title, I suggest you start a it’s all good man thread maybe with a gif of a bloke with his thumbs up

Yeah it’s all good man

 

[Esteban de la Sexface]

Guardiola persisting with Gundogan is a huge problem.

He has neither the legs nor the bollocks required to protect a back 4. When youre already weak at the back then having him holding just magnifies it.

Moving Fernandinho back has fucked it all. He's probably our most important player.

 

[Bluekiwi]

What has that got to do with tonights abomination? People are rightly upset with the performance. If theres a rant on what's the big deal? I'm sure someone can answer the question if you really need to know.

I don't have an issue with people having a rant, that is the whole purpose of the forum and everyone is allowed to vent their feelings.
I was simply curious about the number of pages - I would imagine the highest number would have have been after the Aguero moment to be honest..