Work For Dole

TheMightyQuinn said:
mcmanus said:
Any of these mother fuckers calling for no dole have they ever signed on?

It isn't special. You feel like shit at times. Not had to do it for years but fuck you.

Have they fuck! The idiots on here have no experience yet they shout the loudest.

I'm one of the few who's admitted to signing on in the past.

Absolutely no shame in that and if you need financial help there shouldn't be a stigma attached to claiming it.

This govt is acting like people just don't want jobs....at the last count there were not enough jobs to go around and this bunch of muppets are going to make more people unemployed by arming blue chip companies with the tools to hire poor people for no pay.
 
dazdon said:
TheMightyQuinn said:
mcmanus said:
Any of these mother fuckers calling for no dole have they ever signed on?

It isn't special. You feel like shit at times. Not had to do it for years but fuck you.

Have they fuck! The idiots on here have no experience yet they shout the loudest.

I'm one of the few who's admitted to signing on in the past.

Absolutely no shame in that and if you need financial help there shouldn't be a stigma attached to claiming it.

This govt is acting like people just don't want jobs....at the last count there were not enough jobs to go around and this bunch of muppets are going to make more people unemployed by arming blue chip companies with the tools to hire poor people for no pay.

I think it's more a case of certain people relying on the dole won't do the unskilled jobs which attract lower wages rather than an actual lack of jobs. I got made redundant a couple of years back, was on the dole for two weeks, couldn't stand it so was back working in a bar on a quarter my old wage for a couple of months before a job on the same level as my previous one came along. I've seen tons of bar jobs near me, stuff like that crops up all the time but it comes and goes on a daily occurance. Despite that though the same people are still on the dole claiming there aren't any jobs and have been for too long.

The politically fueled media is responsible for drip feeding this crap that the jobs aren't out there. I bet I could find a job that someone with no qualifications could apply for in an hour, why aren't these people knocking on doors and badgering? 20 years ago there was no such thing as applying online or anything like that, how did people cope? If people were desperate to work they'd be outside knocking on doors and if they would take any job they'd have a job in a couple of weeks, that's how long it took me anyway.

I don't agree people should have to work for their dole in the sense that they should be out on the streets made to look like prats but the Job Centre needs to encourage people into work rather than just hand them their money and let them become dependent. I don't think anyone should have any shame in being in a situation where you have to claim money to live that is completely fair and I'd do the same thing but when a job comes along and that person chooses to not apply for it and sit on their arse, that is wrong.

I think the Job Centre rather than forcing people into pointless work like litter picking should be looking to build a better relationship with local businesses and get these people into real meaningful work, there are companies out there all the time looking for a little help. Jobs going that do not require experience should be made to guarantee to interview a certain number from a pool of those who are on the dole. If those taken on fail in that job because of not turning up or if they can't be bothered etc THEN they should get their benefits taken off them. The country needs to stop painting this picture that the dole is something to be embarassed about or just for those who can't be arsed but rather turn it into an opportunity to get people back into work and ensure they are supported properly doing it.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
mcmanus said:
Pick up rubbish for dole money? What the fuck. I know a lad who works for the council and that's his job, obviously not glamorous but it pays the bills.

Just imagine if Call Me Dave decides the 3 million on the dole should do your type of job. You really think your boss would carry on paying you a wage when he could get slaves to do the work for nowt.


This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Collect the bins / Lollypop traffic wardens / litter collectors / Council gardening / Grave diggers .........all under threat if this comes in

Forget that with just manual labour. There are thousands of graduates without work, proper clever folk who sign on, get these being accountants, engineers and the police and pay them £68.76 a week. Save fucking loads.
 
I help with a hospice in my spare time and they have a mountain of charity bags to go through , this is the sort if thing that someone out of work could help with and at no risk to those in employment.
 
I signed on for 6 weeks a few years back. I had a job to go to at the end of the 6 weeks so had no intention of trying to get a job, but every time I went in I thought it was stupid. The 3 times I went in, I spoke to a different person each time who I had to explain my situation to.
Why not allocate people on dole to specific staff in the jobcentre and have the staff work more as recruitment consultants for their 'clients'?
 
You will be reassessed for the replacement for DLA, either on the renewal date or from 2015, even if your DLA was permanently awarded.

I'm sure the callous twat IDS will find a way to get at your ESA as well.
 
A friend of mine worked fitting cold storage units for many years. He had to give up when he could no longer hold his tools. His hands are basically fucked. He has been told he can go on pension credits in january when he his 62 i think. Guess where they sent him 3 weeks ago, on a 2 week computer course to help him gain employment. They even made him tailor his CV for the type of job he can no longer do. He had to write it out as he has never used a pc. Because of the pain in his hands he was unable to finish in time so the woman made him stay behind until he had.
 

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