World Cup 2018 | 26th June Matches | Next: Argentina vs Nigeria, Iceland vs Croatia, KO 19:00 (BST)

[The Preacher]

The penultimate two photos certainly demonstrate an unnatural haircut situation.

 

[aguero93:20]

Well seeing as you are arguing both are pens, but only one was given, why would I be singled out as 'throwing stones at clouds' ?

Andfl no they haven't always followed that rule, it's a relatively recent addittion to the rules, but the defenition of 'unnatural' is being used either for the sake of argument or to excuse inconsistent/bad/bent refereeing. There was absolutely nothing whatsoever 'unnatural' about the arm position of either player in either similar penatly incident. Your arms do all kinds of shit, naturally, when you play football.

The correct defenition is, of course, when a player deliberately sticks his arm out to block a cross or shot, or, as correctly shown when Umtiti recently handled the ball above his head deliberately, rather than it happening due to natural balance or momentum . It is the ref/v.a.r. job to not be robotic in it's interpreteation & rather, use the law in the spirit it is intended, which is purely to stop intentional foul play, not give pens for accidents, because almost every incident involves an arm in an, 'unnatural' position, in a huge variety of circumstances, and always has done. It's not a new movement.

Unnatural position ALERT!!!
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

That's where v.a.r. might have actually been some fucking use, instead of manufacturing incidents which aren't there.

If the ball hit and of their arms it would be foul play.

 

[Fame Monster]

A forward beats the keeper and his shot hits the hand/arm of a defender standing on the line. It's not deliberate but it does stop the ball going in the net. You wouldn't give a penalty?

If it’s not deliberate then no I wouldn’t. Just because some referees have traditionally awarded penalties in those circumstances doesn’t make it the right decision.

 

[Pigeonho]

Talking about current and ex city players there mate- Serg,Ota, Zabba,Micky D.

No. I’m talking about Argentina.

 

[tronche]

 

[Neville Kneville]

If it’s not deliberate then no I wouldn’t. Just because some referees have traditionally awarded penalties in those circumstances doesn’t make it the right decision.

They could easily rewrite the rules to make it so that handball was more or less 'fair' though.

For example, accidental handball, in the area, becomes the responsibility of the defending team, if, in the opinion of the ref, the handball has given the attacking team a significant disadvantage.

They'd still fuck it up, but it means you can't 'accidentally' block a goal or block a goalscoring pass, but a ball bouncing off your knee onto your arm (ala Richards at Anfield) wouldn't be given as a 'let's help Liverpool win' decision.

 

[kippaxwarrior]

Madonna given the all clear by doctors and he said the reason why he was in that state was because he drank too much wine throughout the day......