World Cup VAR

It’s no coincidence that the first time VAR appears utterly useless is against good old England.

Nuff said.
 
SWP's back said:
I’ve wanted to give it every chance and defended it to the hilt but when Kane’s incident gets no referral then it’s obvious that it’s absolutely pointless.
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I think they need to publish reasons behind VAR decisions and non decisions. It's in early stages so let's help people's understanding.

For me it's the non referrals that are going to kill VAR. The ref will still make decisions that people disagree with. It's so subjective.

But at least it's the ref making the decisions so he can apply the same standards he's applied all game.
 
Sometimes it’s not if the VAR is correct, it’s if the referee is willing to use it. The Colombian ref in the England vs Tunisia match was not going to use it, so no matter what the VAR says to him in play, if the ref is adamant that he’s already right despite the messages of ‘you want to have a look at that one mate’ he’ll still make a bad decision. This guy is notorious for being poor, his mistakes are well documented.

In the France Australia game the ref made the mistake of not going to the half way line for something that could have gone either way and making the final call on a key decision, even if the VAR told him it was clear.

The next game I saw (can’t remember who) had a German ref and he waited for the ball to be in midfield before blowing up and checking what VAR were telling him. Typical bloody Germans for getting it absolutely right.

So, in summary, The VAR could always be right, (though IMO not always), it’s the ref’s willingness to be over ruled that’s the issue. They need to use it to help them, but not make every decision, and not to feel that it undermines them.
Just remember, the ref still has the final decision.
 
fifa is bent and also they hate the english game coz of the money in prem even the smaller teams can outspend most side apart from a select few ie real barca bayern ect
 
Fed up of people saying VAR is new and has teething problems. It has been in use for a while now and all these 'teething problems' have been predicted on here and elsewhere since it was muted.
 
Its FIFA and the refs that suck, VAR is fine when used as it should be, that said there is no place for it in football as was proved conclusively last night when Kane was blatantly rugby tackled twice and it wasn't even reviewed, the reason it wasn't reviewed was the officials are either corrupt, inept, stupid, biased or a combination of all 4...!
 
According to a few referees last night and this morning, apparently offences away from the ball - like the Kane Wrestlemania slams - are difficult to spot using VAR in the required 12-15 second time frame.

I would suggest that is why coach challenges are essential in the proper opperation of VAR.
 
VAR can be scrutinised in itself though and its almost impossible to argue that England werent cheated last night,so a justified complaint can get a better VAR next time ,maybe
Also why no overhead shots to see if Stones scored the first goal looked in
 
cleavers said:
It was reviewed though, 5live said so on commentary, directly after the incident, so why was it not picked up ?

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, and assume they wanted to keep the game a contest, as 2-0 at that stage would have killed it for TV, and this is why the paying public don't get to see so called reviews, and exactly why the rugby, and cricket systems actually work.
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The Referee has a history of ignoring VAR calls. I'm convinced that's what he did with the Kane one. He was told to look at it and ignored it because in his mind he made the right call and that's final.
 
It says a lot about the standard of refereeing here, when the referee last night is considered to be better than ALL the English referees.
 
somethingelse said:
VAR can be scrutinised in itself though and its almost impossible to argue that England werent cheated last night,so a justified complaint can get a better VAR next time ,maybe
Also why no overhead shots to see if Stones scored the first goal looked in
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Said the same at the time , looked as if the keeper clawed it back from over the line.
 
blue corby said:
Said the same at the time , looked as if the keeper clawed it back from over the line.
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I don't think there is much debate about the efficiency or accuracy of goal line technology.

So I am satisfied that it was a great save and not a goal.
 
Hart of the Matter said:
This and only this. I have mixed views on VAR but if people believe it will reduce corruption/manipulation then they are kidding themselves.
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you may well be proved right. but the current system is seriously flawed anyway, so why not give VAR a chance to see if it can reduce corruption/manipulation. I think it will help significantly but I maybe wrong, however it deserves a chance to see if it improves things surely before it's written off completely. It will never be perfect but I think it will reduce the number of ridiculous decisions the old system gives us....
 
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