Would any of our players fit into Barcelona's team ?

[MC ID]

When you consider their style and how they play, I reckon only Silva would have a chance in getting into that team and even then he'd likely be on the bench.

Now, i'd be much more interested in what team could work to beat barcelona. :P

 

[LoveCity]

Kompany is better than both of their CBs and also has the technical ability they would like. Barca's defence is shaky under even the slightest pressure (which luckily they seldom have) while Kompany (with Lescott) has faced bombardments this season that would have caused the oft clumsy Pique and Puyol to collapse. The defensive performance by us against Arsenal remains one of the best in modern history up there with Inter against Barca last year.

 

[Dax777]

Kompany is better than both of their CBs. Barca's defence is shaky under even the slightest pressure (which luckily they seldom have) while Kompany (with Lescott) has faced bombardments this season that would have caused the oft clumsy Pique and Puyol to collapse. The defensive performance by us against Arsenal remains one of the best in modern history up there with Inter against Barca last year.

No he is not.

 

[thepole]

Don't get these people saying Kompany isn't a good enough ball player to get into the Barca team. I'd say its one of his strengths. Anyone got a gif of that 360 turn he did around the Everton striker as last man? Or that cross field pass to silva the same day? Or when he beat four men against Stoke? Cool as a cucumber on the ball, I reckon he's the only one that would get into the Barca team from our lot, but I also reckon they'd love to have Silva in their squad.

 

[LoveCity]

Kompany is better than both of their CBs. Barca's defence is shaky under even the slightest pressure (which luckily they seldom have) while Kompany (with Lescott) has faced bombardments this season that would have caused the oft clumsy Pique and Puyol to collapse. The defensive performance by us against Arsenal remains one of the best in modern history up there with Inter against Barca last year.

No he is not.

Thanks for the insight, know-it-all. I humbly concede defeat.

 

[Dax777]

Kompany is better than both of their CBs. Barca's defence is shaky under even the slightest pressure (which luckily they seldom have) while Kompany (with Lescott) has faced bombardments this season that would have caused the oft clumsy Pique and Puyol to collapse. The defensive performance by us against Arsenal remains one of the best in modern history up there with Inter against Barca last year.

No he is not.

Thanks for the insight, know-it-all. I humbly concede defeat.

I am always accused of saying too much. Thus I am trying to practice concision. You have to admit that was pretty concise. :)

But if you want my expanded version here it is. Your argument is flawed. It presumes the few breakdowns on Barca's part is a sign of being "shaky under pressure," but realistically, what you consider shaky under pressure is a constant occurence for other teams in practically every game. I have never seen Barca as shaky as City v. Everton or City vs Totenham. Yet you consider that a mark of excellence for them while presuming Pique and Puyol will collapse.

When it comes to calmness under pressure, Pique and Puyol are certainly no clumsier than Komps. And when they get the ball under pressure they are way better than Komps. Bringing up Lescott's name is an insult to the discussion... No offense to Lescott, but he is not in the stratosphere the likes of Komps, Pique and Puyol play in.

And being peppered with shots, hitting our bar 3-4 times a game, and creating chance after chance is not a mark of excellence ont he part of the defense, but bad luck on the part of the offense. If not one would be forced to consider Everton's defensive excercise at COMS a modern history show of defensive excellence.

Good defending normally blunts the offense. You don't get chances or hit bars, or break down the defense that calls on the Goalie to make spectacular saves. Good defending just stiffles you period... Our perfomance at Arsenal cannot be said to be the latter, nor was it done mostly by the defenders, it was done by ten players camped around our box. That is hardly the mark of a superior defensive exhibition.

And just for comparison

Arsenal v. Man CIty
Shots; 16 to 5
Possession: 62% to 38%

Inter v. Barcelona
Shots: 9 - 10
Possession: 29%-71%

Now you tell me which one strikes you as a defensive masterpiece?

 

[Any1aBlue]

Silva is the closest thing to the likes of Messi for me-Just wish he could score a bit more like sir Imogen Giggs!!!

Messi? Hell no.
Silva can't dribble and beat players like Messi can, if anyone of our time was anytime like him it would Tevez.
Just down to pure workrate and willingness to try beat players and shoot.

Silva is more of a Xavi-Iniesta type style. The three of them in the centre together would be lethal,
But Barca like that cover on front of the back four in Busques so he'd end up on the bench.

Hoestly - i think every statement you've made is wrong.......quite impressive, but only post when you're sober is the message here.

-- Tue May 31, 2011 8:25 am --

Lescott and Dejong are the only outfield players that would get in the Barcelona team. Dejong is better than Busquetts and Lescott is better than Puyol.

Rubbish ..................all of it.

-- Tue May 31, 2011 8:27 am --

silva
tevez
de jong
yaya
hart
kompany

I cant believe what some folks are putting down here............earth calling!

-- Tue May 31, 2011 8:28 am --

What about Arsenal ? Id say Fabregas, Nasri possibly Walcott
Rags? Rooney and Vidic

What's scary is how close Arsenal's midfield is to Barca's.

On their day, as they've proven, they can go toe to toe with Barca with their speed and skill. That's part of the reason we look clueless when we play them.

And why, with a couple of signings, they'll be the best bet for the Prem Title next season.................being overlooked too easily at the moment.<br /><br />-- Tue May 31, 2011 8:34 am --<br /><br />

Jo would make a good ball boy!

mmm - nope,don't think he would actually...................for balance - a ball boy needs a low centre of gravity, - be short in height to speed up the delivery - and recognise a football is a round slippery thing. Also, be able to tie his/her own shoe laces would be looked upon favourably.

The only way Jo would be ball boy material is his ability to get rid of the ball quickly!

 

[TaylorWill07]

anyone who says kompany isnt better than pique or puyol is just picking an argument for me, if he was a barca player he would 100% start for them, if puyol or pique played for us we would of 100% conceeded more goals, pique and puyol are tremendous for barca as is kompany for us, however put pique or puyol in our defence and they would not look as good as kompany does for us, just because they play for barca does not mean they are better players.

 

[Jumanji]

anyone who says kompany isnt better than pique or puyol is just picking an argument for me, if he was a barca player he would 100% start for them, if puyol or pique played for us we would of 100% conceeded more goals, pique and puyol are tremendous for barca as is kompany for us, however put pique or puyol in our defence and they would not look as good as kompany does for us, just because they play for barca does not mean they are better players.

I think he means with the ball at his feet (even tho Kompany's pretty good at that).

 

[TaylorWill07]

anyone who says kompany isnt better than pique or puyol is just picking an argument for me, if he was a barca player he would 100% start for them, if puyol or pique played for us we would of 100% conceeded more goals, pique and puyol are tremendous for barca as is kompany for us, however put pique or puyol in our defence and they would not look as good as kompany does for us, just because they play for barca does not mean they are better players.

I think he means with the ball at his feet (even tho Kompany's pretty good at that).

kompany is a better defender and better with the ball than a ageing puyol
kopmany is a better defender than pique hwoever not quite as good with the ball

on that assesment in terms of abillity kompany should 100% start for them however because of the prestige that puyol has as a barcelona player he probably wouldnt.

 

[johnmc]

Hart, Kompany, Silva, De Jong and Tevez would make their 25 man squad.

 

[XdanielX]

VALDES

ALVES PUYOL PIQUE ABIDAL

DE JONG

XAVI INIESTA

MESSI SILVA

VILLA

 

[bluemonkey71]

Silva

 

[Dax777]

anyone who says kompany isnt better than pique or puyol is just picking an argument for me, if he was a barca player he would 100% start for them, if puyol or pique played for us we would of 100% conceeded more goals, pique and puyol are tremendous for barca as is kompany for us, however put pique or puyol in our defence and they would not look as good as kompany does for us, just because they play for barca does not mean they are better players.

I think he means with the ball at his feet (even tho Kompany's pretty good at that).

kompany is a better defender and better with the ball than a ageing puyol
kopmany is a better defender than pique hwoever not quite as good with the ball

on that assesment in terms of abillity kompany should 100% start for them however because of the prestige that puyol has as a barcelona player he probably wouldnt.

That prestige is well deserved. You watch Barca long enough and you get lulled into a false sense of common place. What those guys do, and I mean all of them is bothering on amazing. All you have to do is watch someone like Masherano play for Barca to realize how amazing these guys must be. Mash is/was a very good passer as a midfielder in the prem. Watch him at Barca and it seems his is making mistakes left/right and Center. He is the first to panic under pressure and hit a long ball. The one who's pass often fails to reach its reciever with the expected weight and touch.

All the simple looking things even Puyol does with clunky ease, is beyond what most good players are able to do at a consistent basis. What is deemed a show of excellent composure on the part of defenders on most teams, is routine stuff for Barca players.

Sure Komps looks great when he comes out of the back and makes a run or 2 in a game and showcases his technical skills and we all applaud it. Yet on an every game basis, Puyol and Pique pass out of high pressure and move deftly to receive the ball back with ease, regardless of position on the field. And they do it constantly and day.

The mentality to deem this normal in itself, is something most players, talk less defenders will struggle with. Just watch Masherano when he plays for Barca, and you'd realize how hard what they do without second thought must be.

Folks keep forgetting, the issue is not whether some of our players are better than theres. That is quite possible, but rather it is whether, some of our players can do better n their system than those currently playing for them can?

The non issue is arguable, but as to the latter, I think not. Can Komps fit into Barca's style seamlessly? Perhaps! Will he be better for them than either Puyol or Pique or Abidal? Absolutely not!

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Tevez, Kompany, Yaya (already done it) and Silva on bench.

 

[frannyleesbogroll]

jo or RSC for messi he is shite ;-)

 

[Castiel]

Tevez, Kompany, Yaya (already done it) and Silva on bench.

Tevez for Messi? No.

Daxx explained the Kompany issue perfectly already.

Yaya was sold. Better than Busquets, Xavi or Iniesta? In their system, no.

Silva yes, but he wouldn't displace the first 11.

 

[TROUSERS]

Back in work today,the rags have a new tactic now.
They all keep going on about how great Barca are and no team could live with that. I disagree in that I think we would have given them a better game. Utd were just crap, awful and it really exposed how poor their squad now is. They won't have it though. I mean , Owen the only striker on the bench for "impact" yet when 3-1 down he doesn't bring him on???
Yes Barca are good but they thrashed Utd cos Utd should not have been there! Not good enough.

 

[Any1aBlue]

Silva

no, he wouldnt.............<br /><br />-- Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:33 pm --<br /><br />

Tevez, Kompany, Yaya (already done it) and Silva on bench.

Rather than just throwing names out - who would they replace?

 

[TaylorWill07]

kompany would start 100%