Would the UK ever "revolt"

ElanJo said:
nashark said:
A labour aristocracy/soft Socialist union which is what I'd describe the U.K/E.U. as, which has passed Human Rights legislation, has no desire to revolt.

If the Tories wanted the destruction of the welfare state, maybe there would be a large scale reaction but I'm not sure whether that'll happen.

What needs to happen now is to stop people passing on money to their children/friends. And to have a more detailed tax system which takes into account the merits of what you actually do to replace in part a measure of how much you earn. How that is achieved without making everyone worse off is the problem Western European countries are faced with, but I think the current electoral system will find the answer eventually.

Yep, generosity is exactly what we need to put a stop to.

Let's end Christmas and Birthdays as well.

Fuck it, let's just end the human race.

A policy like that doesn't preclude a person from buying another person whatever they so choose to buy. However, a legal dispute as to who should have access to the gift would be decided in favour of the person who bought it.
 
nashark said:
ElanJo said:
nashark said:
A labour aristocracy/soft Socialist union which is what I'd describe the U.K/E.U. as, which has passed Human Rights legislation, has no desire to revolt.

If the Tories wanted the destruction of the welfare state, maybe there would be a large scale reaction but I'm not sure whether that'll happen.

What needs to happen now is to stop people passing on money to their children/friends. And to have a more detailed tax system which takes into account the merits of what you actually do to replace in part a measure of how much you earn. How that is achieved without making everyone worse off is the problem Western European countries are faced with, but I think the current electoral system will find the answer eventually.

Yep, generosity is exactly what we need to put a stop to.

Let's end Christmas and Birthdays as well.

Fuck it, let's just end the human race.

A policy like that doesn't preclude a person from buying another person whatever they so choose to buy. However, a legal dispute as to who should have access to the gift would be decided in favour of the person who bought it.

So gifts are OK but money is not?

" However, a legal dispute as to who should have access to the gift would be decided in favour of the person who bought it"

I'm not sure what you're saying here. Care to explain?
 
ElanJo said:
So gifts are OK but money is not?

No. Strictly speaking, none of them are okay by that policy. But that policy would rarely be applied in cases where tangible property are transferred from one person to another. For the reasons I'll make clearer below.

ElanJo said:
" However, a legal dispute as to who should have access to the gift would be decided in favour of the person who bought it"

I'm not sure what you're saying here. Care to explain?

I'll use exam-style specifics to elucidate my point.

Steve is from Brazil. He works hard. As a result of his hard work, the people of Brazil reward him with money. With this money, Steve buys a t-shirt. He gives it to Asif for Christmas. Asif has income of his own which is a reflection of the contribution he has made, as decided by the people of Brazil. For Steve to undermine what the people of Brazil think Asif should have takes the piss tbh. So Brazil do not recognise that transfer of ownership. However, Brazil would only need to decide who 'owns' what in cases where Steve says "fuck off Asif, I want my t-shirt back, I'm on the blower to the cops".

People can buy each other gifts. However, in cases of dispute, the gift would be returned to the person who bought it. Christmas is back on.

Does that offend your sense of justice?
 
BoyBlue_1985 said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
SWP's back said:
Im glad nashark is not in control.

why would people be allowed to own anything? surely everyone should be equal?

Its not how the human race has worked from the very start. Why try to make us into something we are not

It throws up so many supplementary questions my mind is starting to hurt.

So when someone dies what happens to their house? I assume their widow/widower is thrown out of their home if it is in the other persons name. And the kids as well.

What then happens to the house? Who gets it? Who decides?

I'm not entirely sure he's thought this one through. Sorry nashark it's an awful idea that won't work, and as BB '85 has said is at odds with human nature.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
BoyBlue_1985 said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
why would people be allowed to own anything? surely everyone should be equal?

Its not how the human race has worked from the very start. Why try to make us into something we are not

It throws up so many supplementary questions my mind is starting to hurt.

So when someone dies what happens to their house? I assume their widow/widower is thrown out of their home if it is in the other persons name. And the kids as well.

What then happens to the house? Who gets it? Who decides?

I'm not entirely sure he's thought this one through. Sorry nashark it's an awful idea that won't work, and as BB '85 has said is at odds with human nature.

GDM what he is talking about is Karl Marx type socialistic communism. It has never worked and wont ever work because Marx never factored in human beings to his thinking
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
SWP's back said:
Im glad nashark is not in control.

why would people be allowed to own anything? surely everyone should be equal?
Not everyone is equal in terms of ability, desire and work rate.

As I say, the only supporters of communism are those that it would benefit, the work shy, thick and unlikely to succeed.
 

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