Would You Accept A Rapist Playing For City?

goater1978 said:
karen7 said:
goater1978 said:
If you read the site it appears she was tweeting about how she was going to buy minis with the money she would make out of this. She does appear to be a rather unpleasant person.

So what you're saying is that all female football fans believe that once someone has served his time for a crime he should never be allowed to live his life and should be punished forever.

What do you want ched to do for the rest of his life? Sign on at the dole office?

I don't care what he does,the question is would we accept him here and my answer is NO

You're not a we.

You may not accept him but many people who believe in the rehabilitation Into society of people who have committed crimes would accept him.

As mentioned on here that keeper who killed two kids is now back playing football and has been made captain of Plymouth!

You goater1978 need to read the thread title.
 
dobobobo said:
goater1978 said:
karen7 said:
I cant believe what i have just read,you should be ashamed of yourself

You should have a read of the website.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.chedevans.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.chedevans.com</a>

Obviously it's very one sided but it does seem like there are some circumstances that mean he may have been hard done by.

No one can defend rape but the courts are not the most reliable and mistakes do happen.

None of us were at court so that website means fuck all.

The police investigated, CPS said there was enough to charge him, a trial at court took place, Ched Evans was found guilty.

Unanimously, with the jury returning a verdict after just 5 hours and with the judge endorsing the verdict.
 
Davs 19 said:
dobobobo said:
goater1978 said:
You should have a read of the website.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.chedevans.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.chedevans.com</a>

Obviously it's very one sided but it does seem like there are some circumstances that mean he may have been hard done by.

No one can defend rape but the courts are not the most reliable and mistakes do happen.

None of us were at court so that website means fuck all.

The police investigated, CPS said there was enough to charge him, a trial at court took place, Ched Evans was found guilty.

Unanimously, after just 5 hours, with the judge endorsing the verdict.

Yep!

And one second for the odd idiot from the public to blame the victim with no evidence provided.
 
Davs 19 said:
goater1978 said:
karen7 said:
I don't care what he does,the question is would we accept him here and my answer is NO

You're not a we.

You may not accept him but many people who believe in the rehabilitation Into society of people who have committed crimes would accept him.

As mentioned on here that keeper who killed two kids is now back playing football and has been made captain of Plymouth!

That's not a justification. If you'd feel comfortable with our club employing a rapist, that's your view. I'd be surprised if the majority agreed with you.

I don't think I will be in the minority.

Of course there is always a loud uneducated minority who like to bang on about issues like this and try and take the moral high ground by saying that people should never be forgiven for their crimes.

We live in a civilised society that has said that the crime ched did was punished by a five year jail sentence and he can be released in 2 1/2 years. He has served this time and is now ready to move on with his life and go back to his job. I would like to think that most people would accept that.

In addition the majority of people complaining don't come from the club he is going to play for. There has been little sign of any sheffield united protest that they will soon be employing ched. So unless you are going to claim that sheffield united fans are different to fans of other teams I don't see how you can say that the majority of city fans would in the same situation refuse to accept it.

If we had a star striker who went to prison for rape and he came back to the club after his sentence I think we would welcome him back.
 
dobobobo said:
goater1978 said:
karen7 said:
I cant believe what i have just read,you should be ashamed of yourself

You should have a read of the website.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.chedevans.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.chedevans.com</a>

Obviously it's very one sided but it does seem like there are some circumstances that mean he may have been hard done by.

No one can defend rape but the courts are not the most reliable and mistakes do happen.

None of us were at court so that website means fuck all.

The police investigated, CPS said there was enough to charge him, a trial at court took place, Ched Evans was found guilty.

Yep juries have a 100% record of always being right......
 
goater1978 said:
Davs 19 said:
goater1978 said:
You're not a we.

You may not accept him but many people who believe in the rehabilitation Into society of people who have committed crimes would accept him.

As mentioned on here that keeper who killed two kids is now back playing football and has been made captain of Plymouth!

That's not a justification. If you'd feel comfortable with our club employing a rapist, that's your view. I'd be surprised if the majority agreed with you.

I don't think I will be in the minority.

Of course there is always a loud uneducated minority who like to bang on about issues like this and try and take the moral high ground by saying that people should never be forgiven for their crimes.

We live in a civilised society that has said that the crime ched did was punished by a five year jail sentence and he can be released in 2 1/2 years. He has served this time and is now ready to move on with his life and go back to his job. I would like to think that most people would accept that.

In addition the majority of people complaining don't come from the club he is going to play for. There has been little sign of any sheffield united protest that they will soon be employing ched. So unless you are going to claim that sheffield united fans are different to fans of other teams I don't see how you can say that the majority of city fans would in the same situation refuse to accept it.

If we had a star striker who went to prison for rape and he came back to the club after his sentence I think we would welcome him back.

Please stop expressing your opinion as fact. As you have pointed out, you cannot speak for the majority.
 
goater1978 said:
dobobobo said:
goater1978 said:
You should have a read of the website.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.chedevans.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.chedevans.com</a>

Obviously it's very one sided but it does seem like there are some circumstances that mean he may have been hard done by.

No one can defend rape but the courts are not the most reliable and mistakes do happen.

None of us were at court so that website means fuck all.

The police investigated, CPS said there was enough to charge him, a trial at court took place, Ched Evans was found guilty.

Yep juries have a 100% record of always being right......

Please start presenting some evidence instead of making claims and providing links to claims as if they are factual.
 
goater1978 said:
Davs 19 said:
goater1978 said:
You're not a we.

You may not accept him but many people who believe in the rehabilitation Into society of people who have committed crimes would accept him.

As mentioned on here that keeper who killed two kids is now back playing football and has been made captain of Plymouth!

That's not a justification. If you'd feel comfortable with our club employing a rapist, that's your view. I'd be surprised if the majority agreed with you.


I don't think I will be in the minority.

Of course there is always a loud uneducated minority who like to bang on about issues like this and try and take the moral high ground by saying that people should never be forgiven for their crimes.

We live in a civilised society that has said that the crime ched did was punished by a five year jail sentence and he can be released in 2 1/2 years. He has served this time and is now ready to move on with his life and go back to his job. I would like to think that most people would accept that.

In addition the majority of people complaining don't come from the club he is going to play for. There has been little sign of any sheffield united protest that they will soon be employing ched. So unless you are going to claim that sheffield united fans are different to fans of other teams I don't see how you can say that the majority of city fans would in the same situation refuse to accept it.

If we had a star striker who went to prison for rape and he came back to the club after his sentence I think we would welcome him back.[/


You must be aware of the irony.

I'm out now as no amount of logical debate and presentation of facts will alter your opinion.

Ched Evans is a convicted rapist.

Fact.
 
dobobobo said:
goater1978 said:
dobobobo said:
None of us were at court so that website means fuck all.

The police investigated, CPS said there was enough to charge him, a trial at court took place, Ched Evans was found guilty.

Yep juries have a 100% record of always being right......

Please start presenting some evidence instead of making claims and providing links to claims as if they are factual.

You honestly need me to produce some links to show that juries don't always come up with the right verdict?
 
Davs 19 said:
goater1978 said:
Davs 19 said:
That's not a justification. If you'd feel comfortable with our club employing a rapist, that's your view. I'd be surprised if the majority agreed with you.


I don't think I will be in the minority.

Of course there is always a loud uneducated minority who like to bang on about issues like this and try and take the moral high ground by saying that people should never be forgiven for their crimes.

We live in a civilised society that has said that the crime ched did was punished by a five year jail sentence and he can be released in 2 1/2 years. He has served this time and is now ready to move on with his life and go back to his job. I would like to think that most people would accept that.

In addition the majority of people complaining don't come from the club he is going to play for. There has been little sign of any sheffield united protest that they will soon be employing ched. So unless you are going to claim that sheffield united fans are different to fans of other teams I don't see how you can say that the majority of city fans would in the same situation refuse to accept it.

If we had a star striker who went to prison for rape and he came back to the club after his sentence I think we would welcome him back.[/


You must be aware of the irony.

I'm out now as no amount of logical debate and presentation of facts will alter your opinion.

Ched Evans is a convicted rapist.

Fact.

Yes I am not disputing that....

I suggest you read this column. It's a broadsheet newspaper I'm afraid so you may need someone to help you with the longer words.

<a class="postlink" href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/brendanoneill2/100283231/the-medievalism-of-the-campaign-to-stop-ched-evans-from-getting-his-old-job-back/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/brend ... -job-back/</a>
 

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