YaYa and the remaining games

[uwe rosler 28]

Suspect he'll not play again like JoJo/Nasri.

It was noticeable and I'm sure he could hear the shouting to 'get the fuck up' 'lazy twat' etc when he was on the deck in the first half.

You could maybe add dzeko to that little list!

 

[mosssideblue]

End of an era beckons.

Yaya Toure was absolutely instrumental to City's spell of success, but he has become a liability this season. I believe that Fernando is playing now as a minder to try and compensate for Yaya's lack of mobility. Toure is still an asset at home where his passing is still great, but when we don't have the ball it's like having 10 men.

On the face of it you take Yaya Toure out of City's title winning teams then you expect a big reduction in the team's performance but that doesn't excuse Pellegrini:

1)He keeps playing him when he should not especially away from home. How do you go away from home in an intense game and try to win with a static Yaya Toure in your team?
2) There are other issues that are developing in the team such as work off the ball, and our movement off the ball when we have it - basically all the stuff that you expect to come from good coaching

We're being hit by a double whammy. The self-inflicted decline of a great footballer, and a coach whose to weak to deal with him

I defended Toure all Summer thinking he'd come good. He hasn't. I don't understand how any player could deliberately pass up one of the best years of his life. He's not getting it back is he.

Now we have the problem of replacing him and the manager - when we finally get around to doing that. There's so much to do yet we're drifting along and Pellegrini is making plans for next season eg Denayer, Rekik etc and some people are just content to wait. Next season is going down the pan as well, not just this one

If Carlsberg did miserable cnuts

 

[kaz7]

Any news on his injury?
The commentator said hamstring so we may not see him again this season or ever anyway

 

[Zin 'messiah' Zimmer]

End of an era beckons.

Yaya Toure was absolutely instrumental to City's spell of success, but he has become a liability this season. I believe that Fernando is playing now as a minder to try and compensate for Yaya's lack of mobility. Toure is still an asset at home where his passing is still great, but when we don't have the ball it's like having 10 men.

On the face of it you take Yaya Toure out of City's title winning teams then you expect a big reduction in the team's performance but that doesn't excuse Pellegrini:

1)He keeps playing him when he should not especially away from home. How do you go away from home in an intense game and try to win with a static Yaya Toure in your team?
2) There are other issues that are developing in the team such as work off the ball, and our movement off the ball when we have it - basically all the stuff that you expect to come from good coaching

We're being hit by a double whammy. The self-inflicted decline of a great footballer, and a coach whose to weak to deal with him

I defended Toure all Summer thinking he'd come good. He hasn't. I don't understand how any player could deliberately pass up one of the best years of his life. He's not getting it back is he.

Now we have the problem of replacing him and the manager - when we finally get around to doing that. There's so much to do yet we're drifting along and Pellegrini is making plans for next season eg Denayer, Rekik etc and some people are just content to wait. Next season is going down the pan as well, not just this one

If Carlsberg did miserable cnuts

The Larry David of bluemoon.... Marv is fastly becoming my favourite comedian

 

[ballbag]

I wouldn't have been playing him in midfield for a while already. I'd rather a team of 11 players took to the pitch rather than 10.5, and that the midfield is a unit rather than everyone scrambling to cover holes all over the pitch which drags every fucker out of position and offers no protection to the back 4 when we lose the ball. Throw him on up front behind Aguero if he's gonna play anywhere. Just nowhere near any place on the field that needs someone willing to break into more than a pretend jog when needed.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Am not sure why this isn't in the Yaya thread?

I, as many know am not a Yaya fan, but this thread suggests that he is a major problem, and he aint.

No but his inability to defend this season is.
In short we can't play him as one of the midfield 2 in front of our defence.

We can't but is that all his fault? Why do we play a touchline hugging winger who rarely, if ever, comes in narrow when we don't have the ball to help Yaya out in the middle? Why do we play Fernando over Fernandinho, ever? Why do we not press the ball higher up the pitch or cynically foul the opposition when we lose the ball so we don't have the slow-off-the-mark Yaya exposed to quick midfielders? (there are loads more things i could say)

You're not wrong. These things are down to the manager and one if the reasons he has to go.

 

[dobobobo]

End of an era beckons.

Yaya Toure was absolutely instrumental to City's spell of success, but he has become a liability this season. I believe that Fernando is playing now as a minder to try and compensate for Yaya's lack of mobility. Toure is still an asset at home where his passing is still great, but when we don't have the ball it's like having 10 men.

On the face of it you take Yaya Toure out of City's title winning teams then you expect a big reduction in the team's performance but that doesn't excuse Pellegrini:

1)He keeps playing him when he should not especially away from home. How do you go away from home in an intense game and try to win with a static Yaya Toure in your team?
2) There are other issues that are developing in the team such as work off the ball, and our movement off the ball when we have it - basically all the stuff that you expect to come from good coaching

We're being hit by a double whammy. The self-inflicted decline of a great footballer, and a coach whose to weak to deal with him

I defended Toure all Summer thinking he'd come good. He hasn't. I don't understand how any player could deliberately pass up one of the best years of his life. He's not getting it back is he.

Now we have the problem of replacing him and the manager - when we finally get around to doing that. There's so much to do yet we're drifting along and Pellegrini is making plans for next season eg Denayer, Rekik etc and some people are just content to wait. Next season is going down the pan as well, not just this one

Cheer up Marvin, you miserable...

Has there ever been a season where a player has fallen so far so fast?

You think of Yaya Toure last season. he really should have been Player of the Year. He was in that rung of players just below Messi, Robben and Ronaldo. And now he's been targeted as a defensive weakness by other teams (I refer to Man Utd players comments after the Derby where they talked about knowing that they knew some City players would not track back after losing the ball)

Excuse me for being a little fed up that we're just about to hand our title back to Chelsea, and despite what Pellegrini claims it's been a pathetic defence. And meanwhile as a club we are not responding. I can take defeat and setback, because there's always another game and another season to make good, only at the moment I don't think we are preparing to make good. We're just waiting for the teacher's report.

Why don't you tell me how it looks from dobobobo land?

It's looks like we're second Marvin, like I said we would be before United and Arsenal kicked off on Sunday when you last made this point.

 

[BobKowalski]

:)

This is a specific question thread though, that isnt, so would you play him (if he was fit)

Fair enough and yes I would. Best player we have by some distance. Yaya has a habit of winning games when they are most needed. It's a great habit.

Eh? He hasn't shown that habit this season then

Scored late against Villa away if I recall but no he hasn't had an especially good season but then who has?

Still our best player though and still our main match winner so yes I would pick him.

 

[dobobobo]

Fair enough and yes I would. Best player we have by some distance. Yaya has a habit of winning games when they are most needed. It's a great habit.

Eh? He hasn't shown that habit this season then

Scored late against Villa away if I recall but no he hasn't had an especially good season but then who has?

Still our best player though and still our main match winner so yes I would pick him.

Player....................CL... FA... LG... LC... Total

1 Sergio Agüero......6...... 0..... 21... 0..... 27

2 David Silva 0 0 11 0 11

3 Y Touré 1 0 8 1 10

4 Frank Lampard 0 0 5 2 7

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[Big Swifty]

His mobility puts me in mind of Frankenstein's monster on Valium............