YaYa and the remaining games

He's never been great with defensive responsibilities but he's been so awesome going forward that he could be forgiven for it, Unfortunately now, he's not affecting the game enough in a positive way and is bordering on being a liability against the better sides. If fit, I'd probably still play him in the home matches but I think his time at City has come to en end. He'll always be remembered as one of our greats though.
 
mosssideblue said:
Marvin said:
End of an era beckons.

Yaya Toure was absolutely instrumental to City's spell of success, but he has become a liability this season. I believe that Fernando is playing now as a minder to try and compensate for Yaya's lack of mobility. Toure is still an asset at home where his passing is still great, but when we don't have the ball it's like having 10 men.

On the face of it you take Yaya Toure out of City's title winning teams then you expect a big reduction in the team's performance but that doesn't excuse Pellegrini:

1)He keeps playing him when he should not especially away from home. How do you go away from home in an intense game and try to win with a static Yaya Toure in your team?
2) There are other issues that are developing in the team such as work off the ball, and our movement off the ball when we have it - basically all the stuff that you expect to come from good coaching

We're being hit by a double whammy. The self-inflicted decline of a great footballer, and a coach whose to weak to deal with him

I defended Toure all Summer thinking he'd come good. He hasn't. I don't understand how any player could deliberately pass up one of the best years of his life. He's not getting it back is he.

Now we have the problem of replacing him and the manager - when we finally get around to doing that. There's so much to do yet we're drifting along and Pellegrini is making plans for next season eg Denayer, Rekik etc and some people are just content to wait. Next season is going down the pan as well, not just this one


If Carlsberg did miserable cnuts
When it looks like we are about to get up off the canvas and start fighting back I'll be happy.

You can caricature me as a loser if you want, but I think it's actually the other way round. I see City as weak and disorganised at the moment and I want City to respond. The very last thing you want at a football club is a lame duck manager but that's exactly what we've got.

Stick your head in the sand if you want, but you know I am right.
 
If you were City manager, would you play Yaya in the very important remaining games, or would you drop him?

Personally I would, he is coming to the end of his career, no one other than City are going to offer him as much success now and he will want to leave an impression. He has been trying harder, making runs back, tackling etc this season, which for him is a vast improvement. I dont see him shirking for the rest of the season.
 
tramazi said:
If you were City manager, would you play Yaya in the very important remaining games, or would you drop him?

Personally I would, he is coming to the end of his career, no one other than City are going to offer him as much success now and he will want to leave an impression. He has been trying harder, making runs back, tackling etc this season, which for him is a vast improvement. I dont see him shirking for the rest of the season.
I'd give up trying to rationalise the situation from his point of view. It doesn't make sense.

I'm also not sure where you get the impression that he has been trying. if he wanted to make an impact he'd have got fit. He must still have it in him if he gets fit because it was only May 2014 that he was on top of the world. But he hasn't got fit so we should not give him any credit for trying.

I'd play him at home because his passing is good and we usually have a lot of possession, but even that is starting to change. Away from home I would not play him. Maybe use him as a sub.
 
dobobobo said:
Marvin said:
dobobobo said:
Cheer up Marvin, you miserable...
Has there ever been a season where a player has fallen so far so fast?

You think of Yaya Toure last season. he really should have been Player of the Year. He was in that rung of players just below Messi, Robben and Ronaldo. And now he's been targeted as a defensive weakness by other teams (I refer to Man Utd players comments after the Derby where they talked about knowing that they knew some City players would not track back after losing the ball)

Excuse me for being a little fed up that we're just about to hand our title back to Chelsea, and despite what Pellegrini claims it's been a pathetic defence. And meanwhile as a club we are not responding. I can take defeat and setback, because there's always another game and another season to make good, only at the moment I don't think we are preparing to make good. We're just waiting for the teacher's report.

Why don't you tell me how it looks from dobobobo land?

It's looks like we're second Marvin, like I said we would be before United and Arsenal kicked off on Sunday when you last made this point.
OK so you think nothing fundamental has changed and we're good to go as we are in 2015/16? You all know there is an awful lot of work to be done at MCFC. But what are we doing? Sat on our hands going through the motions.
 
BobKowalski said:
avoidconfusion said:
BobKowalski said:
Fair enough and yes I would. Best player we have by some distance. Yaya has a habit of winning games when they are most needed. It's a great habit.

Eh? He hasn't shown that habit this season then

Scored late against Villa away if I recall but no he hasn't had an especially good season but then who has?

Still our best player though and still our main match winner so yes I would pick him.
He still picks out the odd jewel of a pass, but he's more liability than asset. When was the last time he was MOM? Million miles from the player he was

He was awful in the Derby for a start. The rags used to fear him, now they target him.
 
Marvin said:
dobobobo said:
Marvin said:
Has there ever been a season where a player has fallen so far so fast?

You think of Yaya Toure last season. he really should have been Player of the Year. He was in that rung of players just below Messi, Robben and Ronaldo. And now he's been targeted as a defensive weakness by other teams (I refer to Man Utd players comments after the Derby where they talked about knowing that they knew some City players would not track back after losing the ball)

Excuse me for being a little fed up that we're just about to hand our title back to Chelsea, and despite what Pellegrini claims it's been a pathetic defence. And meanwhile as a club we are not responding. I can take defeat and setback, because there's always another game and another season to make good, only at the moment I don't think we are preparing to make good. We're just waiting for the teacher's report.

Why don't you tell me how it looks from dobobobo land?

It's looks like we're second Marvin, like I said we would be before United and Arsenal kicked off on Sunday when you last made this point.
OK so you think nothing fundamental has changed and we're good to go as we are in 2015/16? You all know there is an awful lot of work to be done at MCFC. But what are we doing? Sat on our hands going through the motions.

What the fucking fuck? How do you know we're sitting on our hands? For all you know the what needs to be done to address our underperformance ( note that word, not the crisis that the drama queens among us would have you believe ) this season is currently being done behind the scenes.
 
Rolee said:
Marvin said:
dobobobo said:
It's looks like we're second Marvin, like I said we would be before United and Arsenal kicked off on Sunday when you last made this point.
OK so you think nothing fundamental has changed and we're good to go as we are in 2015/16? You all know there is an awful lot of work to be done at MCFC. But what are we doing? Sat on our hands going through the motions.

What the fucking fuck? How do you know we're sitting on our hands? For all you know the what needs to be done to address our underperformance ( note that word, not the crisis that the drama queens among us would have you believe ) this season is currently being done behind the scenes.

He sounds about 15, I don't actually think starving has ever been to a game, never mind understand the workings of a football club....
 
Clearly he has not been anywhere close to last season, but that was as good as it gets so always unlikely.

However he wasn't on the pitch when Villa scored their goals on Saturday and in January when he was in Africa we were equally as crap.

The mistake the club made was expecting his form to go on forever and not signing anyone with the required quality to step into his shoes.

He also got a lot of support from Silva and Nasri last season but this year the latter has been crap on the whole and Silva only good in patches.

To be honest most of the side have been average at best so it's not just him.
 

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