Yaya Toure - commits future to City (page 855)

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Surely this has to be the worst pretext ever for rationalising why a player wants to leave the football club. The board didn't acknowledge his birthday....seriously? We as fans are getting worked up over that!? Time to take a chill pill and understand this is modern football.

It happened with Suarez, it happened with Rooney, it happened with Messi at Barcelona. All have stayed. This is football in the 21st century I'm afraid.

I don't particularly like it, but that's the reality.
 
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bobmcfc said:
i♥city! said:
Chippy_boy said:
This man is Dimitri Seluk. Fact.

Mods: where is his IP address? Where is he posting from. I am serious!

haha.

How can you not see how utterly disrespectful this episode had been towards our owner, fans and chairman ? I'm actually cringing at this crass exhibition and his agent should hang his head in Shame !! How is there even a way back after this disgusting behaviour ? And over money too, how petty !
Of course, but for me for the moment it remains the actions of the agent
 
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At risk of being called a posh scumbag, I’ll attempt to summarise, in good grammar, the facts and speculation (having read every post up to page 160) from the Yaya Toure debacle. I’ll also be providing my two cents, and I welcome comments and criticism, but I’d appreciate if they’re kept clean. As you’ll notice from my post count, I’m also more of a reader than a poster but decided to type this for ease of those joining the thread late.

Four tweets were posted on Yaya’s official twitter account. Despite the difference in puncutation styles, their contents do not matter as we don’t know who posted which tweet. It could have been the player, his agent, or a social media representative, whether hired by the player or by MCFC.

In legal terms, as it’s an official account, the account holder is responsible for everything tweeted (e.g. if there was a racist/hate tweet, Yaya would be held criminally accountable) unless proof is obtained (e.g. through MAC and IP addresses) that someone else was responsible. Since this isn’t as serious, the question of Yaya having to come out and deny the tweets is a matter of personal choice. Of course we’d all want him to do so, but we don’t know as yet what his position is.

Additionally, there is debate over whether he actually knows this whole fiasco is going on. Some fans say it’s impossible in this day and age, but given he’s not in the UK and probably a few hours ahead in terms of time zones, he’s probably asleep when the whole thing began to grow out of proportion. How many footballers follow the news or are in touch with their agents 24/7?

Regardless of whether Yaya’s agent has gone rogue, we also don’t know the contractual agreements between the two parties. Some are speculating that the man isn’t a licensed agent, while others feel that he is paid to represent 100% of the player’s thoughts and feelings. On one hand, he has helped Yaya to pocket salaries with which I could live on for 100 generations; on the other, this man means so much that Yaya’s son was named after him.

Said agent has supposedly (how would we know if this farce turns out to be caused by an imposter and the media are left with their flies open) been on Sky Sports News and Talksport. His rant in poor English basically claims that Yaya has been unhappy due to what he perceived as the club’s lack of attention towards him, primarily little things like birthday greetings, congratulations, and handshakes. He used journalism’s version of parking the bus by not giving direct answers, denying all financial-related accusations, and constantly beating his own drum to get his point across. Personally, I wouldn’t take his words even with a pint of salt.

There is also debate over the role of MCFC’s Media/PR department in cases like this. Allow me to digress: When the Malaysian Airlines flight went missing, the authorities were slow in providing updates, but ensured that all information was accurate. They were accused of inefficiency, as well as of trying to spin tales and having something to hide. On the other hand, in the South Korean ship tragedy, the authorities wanted to publicise “facts” to the media ASAP, and ended up revising their passenger count at least 5 times. It goes without saying that they were heavily lambasted.

Journalism is a trade which employs various morals, as evident from the use of phrases such as “Daily Mail readers”. Therefore, if the club’s stance is to keep silent and wait for progress towards concrete facts (which IMO is the choice of highest integrity and credibility), then it isn’t right for us to criticise. Even though the club is in a position to find out the truth, they might still be as clueless as us – after all, it’s been less than a day. Besides, even when they uncover everything, for business reasons (e.g. transfer dealings), they may not want to make any announcements at all.

There was also debate over whether Yaya, as a Muslim, celebrates birthdays. Again, we don’t know how devout he is, and this is a personal matter over which we should not try to fabricate stories. My understanding is that the reason behind Islam discouraging birthday celebrations is due to values such as being frugal, rather than the act of celebrating itself.

Part 2 to come after reading pages 161-175…
 
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I don't necessarily believe this so i hope he does stay, love the guy, but if it is true then he can fuck off as no one is bigger than the club. I don't mind if a player wants to leave but I do hold anger towards those who disrespect the club. It's not very like him to complain about something like this, so I truly hope this all blows over and we can be happy again.
 
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Marvin said:
bobmcfc said:
i♥city! said:

How can you not see how utterly disrespectful this episode had been towards our owner, fans and chairman ? I'm actually cringing at this crass exhibition and his agent should hang his head in Shame !! How is there even a way back after this disgusting behaviour ? And over money too, how petty !
Of course, but for me for the moment it remains the actions of the agent

Hopefully it is just him, there is no way back for his agent, none whatsoever !
 
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Why anyone is shocked that an agent would try and stir up trouble to get his client(and therefore himself) a raise when his client has a career year. I think we need to lighten up. Why everyone is so eager to ship out the best CM in the world because his agent or even himself wants a pay raise baffles me. I don't care if he makes 500k a week. He's a great player and deserves to make what ever he can get. Didn't we just go threw this situation 2 years ago? Where his agent claimed he was unhappy and was being disrespected? Everything worked out just fine after that. The same will happen this time.
 
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bobmcfc said:
Worst I ever felt was when SWP left. He was the only spark we had in our team and he was taken, so now no matter what nothing and no player will ever make me feel as desolate as I did when Sweep was sold. no player is bigger than this club because now we have that type of spark all over the pitch and we have the resources to cope with the loss of a player like this. We will be fine, we always are.

I'm with you, I was devastated when SWP left, but you know if Yaya goes we'll invest heavily in a replacement.
 
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