Yaya Toure - commits future to City (page 855)

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Re: Yaya Toure

31 and 3 years left on our biggest contract with clubs all over Europe that would move heaven and Earth to snap him up makes him our biggest bargaining chip and Txiki has previous of moving out players at the so called top of their game.

Getting rid of Yaya now makes so much sense from a FFP stance.

I tend to agree, although I also believe it makes sense, irrespective of FFPR.

You always sell at the peak, more so, when they are 31 and break convention in terms of asking price.

Yaya is a statement signing for any club.

What City would have to do is ensure our replacement was of equal statement, at least in terms of worldwide recognition.

Transfer fee and wages saved would certainly allow us to replace him with an equally world class talent and that's why I don't give two shits either way.

Players come and go and yes he has played a huge part in our success but his leaving wont stop us as a club going on to the next level.

In terms of wages, we could certainly afford to bring in two world class players for Yaya's overall package.

And it would obviously have the ultimate impact of bringing in someone younger, ensuring we are competitive a lot longer than waiting for Yaya's candle to burn out.

The only sour note for me is Yaya destroying his legacy.

I did not agree with handing him a four-year-deal last summer, based on his age.

Thankfully, it would appear Txiki's decision (someone Yaya and Seluk says does not respect him) made us fireproof with that decision.

 

[NipHolmes]

Re: Yaya Toure

Would love it if Yaya did force a move in the Summer and he was utter crap for whoever he signed for. Arrogant bastard, has any other player ever said "my statistics are incredible" ? Can't imagine even Ronaldo would put it that bluntly.

I used to be a massive Froch fan, I was at Trent FM arena when he beat Dirrel and followed him ever since national level. But he turned into a prize cock when Eddie Hearn signed him from Hennessey. Yaya has gone the same route, he's gone from a talented, affable and grounded guy to an arrogant prat people don't want to see or listen to. Regardless of talent, it's a prerequisite of a sportsman to be as humble and grounded as possible to succeed, media and rival fans always give more credit that way whereas arrogant people are detested and people only want to see them fail. Take Suarez for example, I truly detest him, would love to see him never step on our island again, yet he's one of the top 5 strikers in the world, and everybody hates him, lesson 101 in how not to act.

 

[Rolee]

Re: Yaya Toure

As fans we don't really know what's going on until months later, and even then you get a biased version of events

If we have learned anything about Tevez, and Mancini, maybe it's not to jump up and down

I'm not going to join in with the hang him and flog him herd whilst I don't know what is going on.

Spot on, exactly where I'm at in all of this.

I find the hissy fits from City fans as pathetic as Seluk to be honest.

And your sanctimonious rants are really starting to grate with me.

Rants?

If you have a problem with my opinion then don't read it.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

Re: Yaya Toure

What sort of defence is it but justifying your own poor behaviour by saying "At least it's not as bad as xyz..." - I'll tell you, a pretty poor one. When you display that sort of logic then it quickly descends into a race to the bottom in which no one wins.

You're saying there's only one person at fault - however the only person responsible for their own actions is themselves. Not Ya Ya. Just because he's acting like a right pork chop doesn't mean you have to. Is it that hard to measure your response rather than saying I hope the **** rots in the EDS or other choice statements?

Well first of all I don't think I personally have responded in the ways you have mentioned although I have definitely voiced my displeasure at the way he has behaved but I like to think I have generally done it in a fairly measured way. But I can completely understand why people on here are furious with Yaya and I find it absolutely bizarre that in all of this, in everything that has happened, you have come on here to knock supporters who love the club and who have come on a forum to vent which is effectively utterly harmless. Some people might say you're a bit of a sanctimonious arsehole who is focusing on the wrong problem. Obviously not me though, I'm more measured than that.

So let me get this right.

People are disappointed by Toure's actions - and they have a right to vent. And according to you they're entitled to carry on and say whatever they want.

I'm disappointed by these peoples reactions - but I shouldn't voice my opinion.

And I'm the sanctimonious arsehole?

Correct.

 

[Robinho's Subbuteo]

Re: Yaya Toure

Not returning calls. I think he has gone.

Don't believe we would hear anything definitive now until after the World Cup.

We would not want to telegraph our attempts to bring in a replacement with money burning a hole in our pocket.

Toure and his camp have been a disgrace in all this.

The ultimate decision is now with Txiki, not Khaldoon.

Not returning calls ?

If he's gone awol/into hiding with respect to our club's attempts to reach him to talk about this - then i can only agree with you. He's gone. As I said yesterday, Pellegrini and Txiki both have history for removing "big" players who they see as a problem. Pellers did it with Riquelme ... Txiki with Eto'o, Deco, Ronaldinho.

Yaya and his camp can fucking do one.

Some just don't get it still mate. Players come and go, they always have and they always will. There is no loyalty in football anymore and that goes for the club as well in that we will fuck off players we don't want.

I still think this is a perfect storm in so much as we may also want rid and Yaya and his agent have got wind?

I think Zab would say different.

 

[nmc]

Re: Yaya Toure

If PSG do want Yaya to go with Luiz and Hazard then they are clearly putting two fingers up to FFP - even with player sales they will never offset that level of spending. Perhaps they are going to adopt a New York Yankees approach and break the rules (salary cap in NYY case) and just pay the fine. They are obviously not worried in the short term about a CL ban and figure they can absorb and offset UEFA fines as part of a bigger sponsorship / revenue generation program.

 

[GX Blue]

Re: Yaya Toure

It always amazes me the upset and outrage when a player does this.

He isn’t a City fan.
He doesn’t come from Manchester.
Hes paid £250k a week to be here anyway.

Granted he does some great things on the pitch from time to time but if he wants to go let him go.....

He could have had icon status for life at the club but he obviously doesn’t care and doesn’t want it.
Fair enough. His loss. We all move on.


This may come as a shock to some of you but 70%/80% of our players would also prob go about getting a move like this.
Not just at our club though, all teams will have this issue.
They are footballers not fans of the club.

Out of our players id like and hope to think Kompany and Zabba wouldn’t ever leave on bad terms. I would hope they would explain that they won’t renew when their contract is in its last year, explain the reason, ie, one last challenge or try a new league and then we can all wish them well.

I think they both care about the club as we do. Maybe Hart too.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Re: Yaya Toure

Not returning calls ?

If he's gone awol/into hiding with respect to our club's attempts to reach him to talk about this - then i can only agree with you. He's gone. As I said yesterday, Pellegrini and Txiki both have history for removing "big" players who they see as a problem. Pellers did it with Riquelme ... Txiki with Eto'o, Deco, Ronaldinho.

Yaya and his camp can fucking do one.

Some just don't get it still mate. Players come and go, they always have and they always will. There is no loyalty in football anymore and that goes for the club as well in that we will fuck off players we don't want.

I still think this is a perfect storm in so much as we may also want rid and Yaya and his agent have got wind?

I think Zab would say different.

Maybe, I'd like to think so but if Zab was unhappy I'm sure we'd see a different side to him and realise that all players are much of a muchness when it comes to being human beings. I really would like to think Zab is different but you know...

 

[lancs blue]

Re: Yaya Toure

I really don't want him to leave,whom will we replace him with,almost an impossible task that..:(

The Yaya Toure who was posted missing at Cardiff, Stoke, Sunderland and Norwich away to name a few will be very easy to replace.

When he's in the mood there's no doubt he's a fantastic player and while I'm not going to slag him off he really is pushing a few buttons with this "wait until after the World Cup" bollocks. Hopefully we learned our lesson from Tevez that once a club panders to these egotistical buggers it invariably comes back and bites the club on the arse later.

If we can get £40m+ for him as suggested it's a no-brainer to sell him, I won't be anywhere near as upset as I was when we had to sell Clive Wilson or SWP to Chelsea to try and balance the books. We have other star players now that we didn't really have in those two cases.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

Re: Yaya Toure

Some just don't get it still mate. Players come and go, they always have and they always will. There is no loyalty in football anymore and that goes for the club as well in that we will fuck off players we don't want.

I still think this is a perfect storm in so much as we may also want rid and Yaya and his agent have got wind?

I think Zab would say different.

Maybe, I'd like to think so but if Zab was unhappy I'm sure we'd see a different side to him and realise that all players are much of a muchness when it comes to being human beings. I really would like to think Zab is different but you know...

He wasn't a regular in the team for quite a while and his behaviour seems to have been impeccable from what we can see. You say that all players are much of a muchness when it comes to being human beings and isn't that exactly the point? Not that they are all the same but like all people in all walks of life they are varied? Some are loyal, some are not, some are egotistical wankers, some are not. If Zab wasn't happy I'm sure he would consider leaving, why shouldn't he? Do I think he would ever do what Yaya has done in the last week? Not a fucking chance.