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Yaya Toure - Things to consider.
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citymad said:Its foolish to think players sign just for the money. Rooney and Torres signed for Liverpool and the Rags because they represent BIG clubs who regularly compete Europe and have a long history of winning trophies.
Yes , of course they do ...........
and there's three leprechauns live next door to me!
If Torres had of been on £80,000 per week at Atletico Madrid , and Liverpool (and their history) had only offered him £50,000 per week to play for them ....... Torres would still be at Madrid , or elsewhere!
persvenality cult
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there is no reason at all to believe he will be any less committed than your idol nigel de jong (who I'm pretty sure doubled his money when he signed for us.. and if I remember correctly promptly announced that he thought this would be a good stepping stone to a really big club)
as you appear to think in clichés, here are a couple more:
talk is cheap.
quality costs.
as you appear to think in clichés, here are a couple more:
talk is cheap.
quality costs.
citymad
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black mamba said:citymad said:Its foolish to think players sign just for the money. Rooney and Torres signed for Liverpool and the Rags because they represent BIG clubs who regularly compete Europe and have a long history of winning trophies.
Yes , of course they do ...........
And there's three leprechauns live next door to me!
And if we offered Rooney 20k a week more ?
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leewill31 said:nashark said:That's because this man has come out publicly criticising our willingness to give him £40K more on a weekly wage of £110K.
when did he say this??????
He didn't say it explicitly, but he called us 'poor'. It's in another thread somewhere.
Spindash said:nashark said:The key thing is: a desire to win should overwhelm a desire to earn money.
So you don't think he can win anything at City?
That's not the point. My point is that he only cares about money, shown by his recent comments. He has already won everything at Barca, so it is unlikely that he has the ambition of a Kompany, let's say.
For the record, City are going to achieve unprecedented success very, very soon. Hold tight.
nashark said:leewill31 said:when did he say this??????
He didn't say it explicitly, but he called us 'poor'. It's in another thread somewhere.Spindash said:So you don't think he can win anything at City?
That's not the point. My point is that he only cares about money, shown by his recent comments. He has already won everything at Barca, so it is unlikely that he has the ambition of a Kompany, let's say.
For the record, City are going to achieve unprecedented success very, very soon. Hold tight.
toure did not say this his gob shite of an agent called us bankrupt not so sure you should be calling a player when you really are not sure what his intentions are and presume he is just some greedy **** instead.
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Chick Counterfly said:there is no reason at all to believe he will be any less committed than your idol nigel de jong (who I'm pretty sure doubled his money when he signed for us.. and if I remember correctly promptly announced that he thought this would be a good stepping stone to a really big club)
as you appear to think in clichés, here are a couple more:
talk is cheap.
quality costs.
Most players who don a City shirt are heroes. Nigel is no different. I am not aware of those comments but if they happened, I would be saying something very similar.
Toure is not exceptional and not worth devaluing our club.
For Mamba, the answer is probably no.
However, a better question is: would Torres be playing for Madrid if Liverpool offered him the same wages?
sambrookonthewing
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Until we are in the CL we have to attract top names by appealing to their financial considerations. It is our only way to break into the self-protective top 4 cartel
Can you find the quote for me?nashark said:Throughout my life, watching City home and away, having a season ticket from the age of 14 (without my Dad), seeing us scrape that fucking barrel with no glory for a criminal amount of time, and often thinking I was City's biggest fan: if we were to sign Yaya Toure, it would be a massive dent in my love for City.
That's because this man has come out publicly criticising our willingness to give him £40K more on a weekly wage of £110K. Maybe previous players have moved for the very same reason - and disguised it better, but to watch a player week-in week-out play for a pay package that some of us can only dream out is a painful experience. It seems almost seems disgusting that a working class man like myself can idolize such figures. Watching the passion in De Jong's face when he goes in for a tackle, or even in the week before we play United saying "we're going to beat these fuckers" is something I cherish, and long may it continue.
The reason I support City - and probably the same for most of you, is that City is a celebration of Mancunian culture. Whether you embrace this culture through a geographical or familial affinity is irrelevant because at the end of the day: we all love City.
There was nothing better for me than going to Maine Road as a young lad with my mates, watching players who loved to play for the shirt with fans that I could relate to, having been brought up in the same environment as most of them. Having a sense of humour in the darkest days was the enduring characteristic of many a City fan, and the reason why I could never join the brigades who cheer behind a motto of "winning is everything".
So the question is: would I give up my season ticket and City for a player (who we all know) doesn't care what colour shirt he plays in?
The answer: probably not.
I would take players of Toure's standard (if it's not over-inflated anyway) than those at the level of recent generations e.g. Bishop, Whitley 1 & 2, Vaughan any day of the week. Spending big money is a necessary means of success, and I have no problem with that (nor paying a 6% increase on my season ticket), but players like Yaya Toure must be avoided for the club's identity - and our very culture - to remain intact.
There can be no doubt that success is something we all want and need, but at what cost does it arrive?
Players, regardless of the quality have never ever had the same feeling for the club as you or I. You talk about the Whitley brothers, and Vaughan etc, but don't you remember the embittered cries of "You're Not Fit to Wear the Shirt!" which used to ring around Maine Road? I can't remember a time at City when the fans were more divorced from the players. It changed as we bounced back from Div 2, but there has never been a golden era for a long long time in professional football.