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You might be surprised but Alonso often runs more than 12 km a match and has more than 60 intensive runs. Very good values.

He's had more intensive runs because Bayern are always on the ball and therefore have more energy to be able to include more sprints into their play.
 
You might be surprised but Alonso often runs more than 12 km a match and has more than 60 intensive runs. Very good values.

no he doesn't... have you watched Bayern... their forwards yes but Alonso is the relayer he usually slots in as a 3rd center back when they have the ball from the back and he rarely crosses the center line... yes he makes himself available for the ball all the time and that's what Yaya does for us... I watch Bayern all the time... Alonso does NOT do 60 intensive runs per game... that's laughable...
 
He's had more intensive runs because Bayern are always on the ball and therefore have more energy to be able to include more sprints into their play.

But then surely that backs up what I said? It's not a case of Bayern players having more energy because they're always on the ball, it's about them always having the ball because of their energy to always look for space as well winning the ball back through constant pressing and pressure.
 
But then surely that backs up what I said? It's not a case of Bayern players having more energy because they're always on the ball, it's about them always having the ball because of their energy to constantly look for space as well winning the ball back through constant pressing and pressure.

Ball retention massively helps, his stats are way off on Alonso btw as the poster above you has stated. Pressure and pressing is only one half of the game, Yaya rarely loses the ball because of his ability to keep it in tight spaces. Yaya's technical abilities could easily see him play the Alonso role, where he can trigger attacks, fill in an the back and shoot from range/push on when we need a goal. Its almost like having 3 centre backs on the pitch, pushing the full backs on to get involved in the attacks. Yaya is at his best when we have possession and we will dominate possession when Pep comes.
 
But then surely that backs up what I said? It's not a case of Bayern players having more energy because they're always on the ball, it's about them always having the ball because of their energy to always look for space as well winning the ball back through constant pressing and pressure.

agree. with Bayern the forwards (Muller/Costa/Robben/Lewa etc..) and of course Vidal and whoever else plays in the middle with him press high with the fullbacks tucked in as extra midfield... Alonso drops just below the pressing to sweep up just like a libero... Alonso is rarely part of the pressing... believe me Yaya will be perfect for that role if Pep chooses to play like that... now whether that will happen or not is another story... i sure hope he finds a place for him...
 
Ball retention massively helps, his stats are way off on Alonso btw as the poster above you has stated. Pressure and pressing is only one half of the game, Yaya rarely loses the ball because of his ability to keep it in tight spaces. Yaya's technical abilities could easily see him play the Alonso role, where he can trigger attacks, fill in an the back and shoot from range/push on when we need a goal. Its almost like having 3 centre backs on the pitch, pushing the full backs on to get involved in the attacks. Yaya is at his best when we have possession and we will dominate possession when Pep comes.

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agree. with Bayern the forwards (Muller/Costa/Robben/Lewa etc..) and of course Vidal and whoever else plays in the middle with him press high with the fullbacks tucked in as extra midfield... Alonso drops just below the pressing to sweep up just like a libero... Alonso is rarely part of the pressing... believe me Yaya will be perfect for that role if Pep chooses to play like that... now whether that will happen or not is another story... i sure hope he finds a place for him...

That makes sense. It's like I said earlier, if Pep wants to keep Yaya, he will play a different version of a holding midfielder than the role he's been crowbarred into over the past two seasons. Right now he's expected to bring the play forward and then have to deal with the counter attacks that occur when we lose the ball and I think that's a lot to expect from any player.
 
no he doesn't... have you watched Bayern... their forwards yes but Alonso is the relayer he usually slots in as a 3rd center back when they have the ball from the back and he rarely crosses the center line... yes he makes himself available for the ball all the time and that's what Yaya does for us... I watch Bayern all the time... Alonso does NOT do 60 intensive runs per game... that's laughable...

Why do you tell me that if the homepage of Bundesliga.de tells me different? And Bayern has all kind of matches in which Alonso has different roles depending who he plays with. Today he e.g. had 19 sprints, 50 intensive runs - the one in midfield who does not have the big running data is Thiago, not Alonso. When Alonso is playing with Vidal and Müller he is running less than when he plays with Thiago. Against Wolfsburg last weekend he had 69 intensive runs.

Maybe it looks sometimes different in matches - but the data pages just tell me different.
 
Ball retention massively helps, his stats are way off on Alonso btw as the poster above you has stated. Pressure and pressing is only one half of the game, Yaya rarely loses the ball because of his ability to keep it in tight spaces. Yaya's technical abilities could easily see him play the Alonso role, where he can trigger attacks, fill in an the back and shoot from range/push on when we need a goal. Its almost like having 3 centre backs on the pitch, pushing the full backs on to get involved in the attacks. Yaya is at his best when we have possession and we will dominate possession when Pep comes.

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