Zlatan Ibrahimovic

[J3SUS]

I'm sorry, but everything is wrong with a deal for Ibra:

- Massive wage, we can expect to pay £150k+ p/w for him
- Overpriced transfer fee (probably around £25-35m)
- Unproven in the Premier League
- Age, soon to be 31 and isn't getting any younger
- Inconsistent, just ask Pep Guardiola
- Temperament is almost as bad if not as bad as Balo's
- IMO he doesn't suit our system

These are the reasons people rule out signings or call for players to be sold, so why go for him???

because he completes the jigsaw -

Mario = Why always me ?

Ibra = Because i fucking can

 

[20sbc07]

My problem with Ibra is when he doesn't have the ball.
When he has the ball he's great, there's no denying that but when he doesn't have it he disappears and wanders about making no effort to help the team get it back.
He relies on the players around him to do all the work and then eventually give him the ball.

Personally I'd rather have someone like the old Tevez, when we first signed him he was willing to fight for every ball, he worked harder than any other player in the league. That Tevez was twice the player Ibra is.

 

[MSP]

Not all strikers are able to do "running stuff" like Tevez or Aguero do, that's something that usually only the small strikers do. And only few of them.

Plus I don't agree that Ibra is completely out of the game without the ball, specially in recent seasons, his game has matured in that part too recently. I've seen him running to his own half more than a few times on this EURO.

 

[Pianecuip]

Zlatan the dangerous swede would fit in here perfectly

 

[Zity9]

He is different class,always has been,he was the best player on the pitch against both England and France.

there are only two more naturally talented players on the world - Messi and Ronaldo.

Messi's talent is unique. Zlatan and Cristina are on the same level.

What makes Zlatan stand out is his physique. When he came to Milan, their "MIlanLab" did their standard tests on him. They said that Zlatan came out on top of all Milan players of the last 30 years. No one was close. And Milan have had some decent players. Zlatan is a monster.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

He is different class,always has been,he was the best player on the pitch against both England and France.

there are only two more naturally talented players on the world - Messi and Ronaldo.

Messi's talent is unique. Zlatan and Cristina are on the same level.

What makes Zlatan stand out is his physique. When he came to Milan, their "MIlanLab" did their standard tests on him. They said that Zlatan came out on top of all Milan players of the last 30 years. No one was close. And Milan have had some decent players. Zlatan is a monster.

So is Messi unique or not?

 

[Rocket-footed kolarov]

Zlatan is a great player, but having him in the team would take us backwards; In all but Barcelona everything was set up to get the ball up to Zlatan rather than focus on overall team play. We played like that with Tevez for 2 seasons and whilst we achieved our goals Fa Cup and 3rd place finish, we have grown far more as a team since abandoning this philosophy. The reliance on Tevez and NDJ no longer exists and I would like to see a team of top level performers but without a reliance on any particular player, this will be better in the long run in terms injuries, poor form and outgoing transfers. We already look closer to this scenario; nasri putting in the performances with silva off form, Balotelli taking over from Dzeko and then tevez coming back to take over from Balo, the only issue is to sort out a reliable back up at CB and then the Over reliance problem maybe sorted.

 

[blueplan]

He is different class,always has been,he was the best player on the pitch against both England and France.

there are only two more naturally talented players on the world - Messi and Ronaldo.

Messi's talent is unique. Zlatan and Cristina are on the same level.

What makes Zlatan stand out is his physique. When he came to Milan, their "MIlanLab" did their standard tests on him. They said that Zlatan came out on top of all Milan players of the last 30 years. No one was close. And Milan have had some decent players. Zlatan is a monster.

He will be a HUGE asset especially against Stoke et al.
City top in corner kick goals.
We have Aguero, Silva, Nasri for Messi --ahs.
Ridiculous to suggest asnother one.<br /><br />-- Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:12 pm --<br /><br />Zlatan in lieu of Dzeko, or Tevez off of course

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

He is different class,always has been,he was the best player on the pitch against both England and France.

there are only two more naturally talented players on the world - Messi and Ronaldo.

Messi's talent is unique. Zlatan and Cristina are on the same level.

ZI is as good a player as Ronaldo....Really?

To old, would cost a fortune in wages and fee.

 

[dref619]

He is different class,always has been,he was the best player on the pitch against both England and France.

don't get the idea he was the best player on the pitch against england at all, as a striker you have to influence high up the pitch, which beisdes one strike he didnt at all.

now if you'd have said kallstrom was the best player on the pitch, id have agreed

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

there are only two more naturally talented players on the world - Messi and Ronaldo.

Messi's talent is unique. Zlatan and Cristina are on the same level.

What makes Zlatan stand out is his physique. When he came to Milan, their "MIlanLab" did their standard tests on him. They said that Zlatan came out on top of all Milan players of the last 30 years. No one was close. And Milan have had some decent players. Zlatan is a monster.

He will be a HUGE asset especially against Stoke et al.
City top in corner kick goals.
We have Aguero, Silva, Nasri for Messi --ahs.
Ridiculous to suggest asnother one.

-- Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:12 pm --

Zlatan in lieu of Dzeko, or Tevez off of course

Mae West.

 

[blueplan]

He is different class,always has been,he was the best player on the pitch against both England and France.

don't get the idea he was the best player on the pitch against england at all, as a striker you have to influence high up the pitch, which beisdes one strike he didnt at all.

now if you'd have said kallstrom was the best player on the pitch, id have agreed

Most folks agree that Martin Olsson, a defender, was the best Swedish player against England and Zlatan next (for the tournament Zlatan was the best Swedish player). Kalllstrom, a midfielder, was decent probably next after Zlatan & Olsson.

BTW are we discussing forwards? Then Dutch strikers were poor if we are considering them.

-- Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:32 pm --

Important thing is does Mancini wants him?

 

[Rocket-footed kolarov]

He is different class,always has been,he was the best player on the pitch against both England and France.

don't get the idea he was the best player on the pitch against england at all, as a striker you have to influence high up the pitch, which beisdes one strike he didnt at all.

now if you'd have said kallstrom was the best player on the pitch, id have agreed

Agree, Walcott was on the pitch for half an hour and despite "lacking a football brain" got a goal and an assist.

As already said Ibra would n't improve our team; he failed at the one team who did n't play the ball up to him quickly, they did that against arsenal and it worked but you can honestly say you would change ours or barcelona's playing style to that boring and dull football for all of our matches regardless of the opposition.

If we want to do that some of the time we have got Mario, he has improved his hold up play and is capable of bullying opposing CBs and fits our team than better a kung foo kick enthusiast who practices on his team mates.

 

[blueplan]

there are only two more naturally talented players on the world - Messi and Ronaldo.

Messi's talent is unique. Zlatan and Cristina are on the same level.

ZI is as good a player as Ronaldo....Really?

To old, would cost a fortune in wages and fee.

Likewise RVP who is more of an injury risk (his injury record) and only 22 months younger.

We have poor record in Gunner strikers. Ade top gunner before joining City.

 

[MSP]

Well, it's obvious from my posts how much I rate Ibrahimovic but I don't think he's on Ronaldo's level.

 

[GoForGlory]

He is different class,always has been,he was the best player on the pitch against both England and France.

don't get the idea he was the best player on the pitch against england at all, as a striker you have to influence high up the pitch, which beisdes one strike he didnt at all.

now if you'd have said kallstrom was the best player on the pitch, id have agreed

Agree, Walcott was on the pitch for half an hour and despite "lacking a football brain" got a goal and an assist.

As already said Ibra would n't improve our team; he failed at the one team who did n't play the ball up to him quickly, they did that against arsenal and it worked but you can honestly say you would change ours or barcelona's playing style to that boring and dull football for all of our matches regardless of the opposition.

If we want to do that some of the time we have got Mario, he has improved his hold up play and is capable of bullying opposing CBs and fits our team than better a kung foo kick enthusiast who practices on his team mates.

I seem to remember Zlatan pushing Lescott aside like he was made of paper. If Mario does that sunday, well maybe you have a point but at the moment I don't think Mario is even close in terms of strength and technique. He does have the potential though, and I'm in the camp that thinks Zlatan would be a fantastic mentor for him, if Mario would allow himself to be mentored.

Also the notion that Zlatan failed on the pitch at Barcelona doesn't really rhyme with me. He didn't feature as heavily towards the end, but that was because of his dispute with Guardiola and not because he didn't fit in the team. He's a better player now than he was a few years ago too.

However I could see him go missing in cold winter games away against WBA or something. But he doesn't really do that in Italy much these days either, and they have some cold winters too.

 

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[combster]

zlatan is the mutts nuts ,you dont play for the top clubs and scored the serious amount of goals hes scored if your shite ,dont forget lads wasnt that long back all our hopes was resting on the likes of ishmael miller and bradley wright-phillips

 

[FantasyIreland]

dont forget lads wasnt that long back all our hopes was resting on the likes of ishmael miller and bradley wright-phillips

I don't think anyone has,however,that is now irrelevant.

 

[Rocket-footed kolarov]

dont forget lads wasnt that long back all our hopes was resting on the likes of ishmael miller and bradley wright-phillips

I don't think anyone has,however,that is now irrelevant.

Spot on, just face it lads Ibrahimovic excels playing a style of football unlike our own that is quick and direct rather than patient, efficient possesion with an emphasis on team play. I also don't think players like Silva or Nasri would excel playing this style or playing alongside Ibrahimovic, Mario is improving his back to goal skillset and was excellent away at Porto, he did n't score but bullied a big strong defence and a goal came because of this. Im not interested in a player like Ibrahimovic who stolls around lethargically whilst his team mates put in a shift, what is the point of signing he is n't a young player, would have high wages would n't improve us as a team and the goals he would score are irrelevant as we already have two 20-goals-a-season strikers in Tevez and Aguero and two players who can score at least 10 and are capable of scoring 20 goals as well.

We don't need a new striker this season and we should infact be looking as younger players for the future; players like John Guidetti and Jose Angel Pozo.