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Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini 2015/16
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Dribble
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My view is that in his first season Manuel had the strongest squad in the Prem allied to the fact the players were receiving fresh instructions from a new face, so it wouldn't have been unreasonable to expect a modicum of success considering our owner's investment. Irrespective of that, Manuel still had to manage us to the double and the squad had to play its way to the double too which is no mean feat.My current position with Pellegrini is that he came in to steady the 'Mancini rocked' ship, and did that just by being a complete opposite character to Mancini. I believe the first season double was more down to the players being re-invigorated post Mancinis departure than any masterful approach by Pellegrini. We were promised a certain style of football when he came, which we're still waiting to see. When I look at our squad, the players we had and have brought in, and the results we've had, there is no question we are collectively worse than the individual talent. Taking blue tinted specs off, I still only see 2 or 3 players from any other prem team making our first team, and yet we lie 3rd, look ordinary in Europe and don't seem to be learning. When he leaves, I'll have no feelings either way. I'm still deliriously happy as a city fan, I'm not acting spoilt, but we should be doing better.
I would also agree that this squad seems to have long since peaked under Manuel's stewardship, so the question remains. Is Manuel the man to reinvigorate this current squad, improve the team and move us on to the next level? Or has Manuel taken our club as far as his talent will allow?
mosssideblue
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If Manuel does leave in the summer, will you be leaving us to join him?
If you decide to stay with us, will your agenderist username remain with you forever or will you revise it? (In Memory of Manuel sounds appropriate).
Once your campaign is run, is there any other campaigns on the horizon you'd like to highlight so this boards members can have time to choose whether to opt into any of them or not?
Explain my agenderist username coz that has gone straight over my head
mosssideblue
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If only life was so simple eh?
No, not black and white, but on 'balance of probabilities' I'd say Manuel. I just haven't seen anything to suggest otherwise?
If a guy gets given a Ferrari to drive and keeps crashing it, it could be the cars fault, but 9 times out of 10 it's probably going to be the driver.
He's hardly kept crashing it. If you simply want to cherry pick the recent poor results to support your theory, then no point discussing
Dribble
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Dribble suits me just fine mate.Change your name to drivel or dribble when I drivel. Would that suit your current campaign? How about "when im tired of pep too"?
Seriously though, any answers to my previous questions?
Dribble
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He's hardly kept crashing it. If you simply want to cherry pick the recent poor results to support your theory, then no point discussing
I'm so sorry, I meant to respond to your earlier post but was momentarily distracted and posted to you what was meant for Pell not Pep ;-).Explain my agenderist username coz that has gone straight over my head
I profusely apologise.
Brightwell’s left peg
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You make a fair point. I'm not suggesting he's a below average manager, and I'm not trying to suggest he had no impact on the first season double, but it was less of an impact than the improved players psyche subsequent to Mancinis restrictive tenure. I just don't see that he's bringing anything special to the party.My view is that in his first season Manuel had the strongest squad in the Prem allied to the fact the players were receiving fresh instructions from a new face, so it wouldn't have been unreasonable to expect a modicum of success considering our owner's investment. Irrespective of that, Manuel still had to manage us to the double and the squad had to play its way to the double too which is no mean feat.
I would also agree that this squad seems to have long since peaked under Manuel's stewardship, so the question remains. Is Manuel the man to reinvigorate this current squad, improve the team and move us on to the next level? Or has Manuel taken our club as far as his talent will allow?
His seeming reluctance to try anything new, unless forced to, would probably provide the answer to your question.
Brightwell’s left peg
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Stalling it then?He's hardly kept crashing it. If you simply want to cherry pick the recent poor results to support your theory, then no point discussing
flb
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https://defendingwiththeball.wordpress.com/2015/06/02/the-engineer/
A decent read, he openly says it's the team performance not the system that wins games. Bit of a one off is Manuel,great if all your players are firing on all cylinders a disaster when they are not.
A decent read, he openly says it's the team performance not the system that wins games. Bit of a one off is Manuel,great if all your players are firing on all cylinders a disaster when they are not.
Keepingthefaithsince1976
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The man has a proven record at virtually every club he has managed winning silverware with 6 of them.
Its ridiculous to suggest he brings nothing to the table and to claim he won a league and cup double in his first season in English football despite him beggars belief.
I'm afraid some fans have caught the real madrid manager syndrome. Sack them after a 'bad run of 3 games'. Why they got rid of Ancelotti I'll never know...or Pell for that matter. I feel for the club with this brand of fan. Short memories.
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