Article 50/Brexit Negotiations

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Len Rum said:
It needs IMO, to be either:

a) The UK fold and give the EU the TA they seek - even though it will be 'dressed up' as less than that as the UK need to keep face ( but what do the EU care), or

b) Hard Brexit - they will recover soon enough - we will be holed below the water line.
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And in that post you display your (and Fumbles') true colours, hopes and aspirations
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
My guess is that no deal means things carry on as they are. As neither party will want to stop something that works. I cant see much changing with or without a deal. They dont want things to get nasty no more than we do. If it does, then May has reminded them that we will play hardball. Its a straightforward negotiating strategy. You need to be a bit more positive and less like Tim Farron.
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Your guess is wrong.
No deal means trading on WTO terms.
My post was based on this fact.
So nothing to do with positivity and Tim Farron.
Get your facts right.
 
Len Rum said:
Just copying your earlier post mate ( but reversing UK and EU) to show how meaningless your post was.
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And by doing so, IMO, clearly demonstrating your (and Fumble's) true colours, hopes and aspirations

My post demonstrated that the EU will not want to give us anything and they will likely only give us near to what we want if they are forced into it through negotiations.

In fact in these negotiations we have some very strong cards, but we need to be able to play them - which is becoming increasingly difficult when we (the UK) are being dragged down and hamstrung by 'our own'.

Highest of our Trump cards is money but the EU need to actual believe we would - if pushed - play it. It is called negotiations but it is clear you have no idea on this.

My post had some relevance as we enter tough negotiations - yours, IMO, was just vacuous and lazy nonsense put out in an attempt to look clever.
 
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mcfc1632 said:
Then please do not bother - you have repeatedly demonstrated the quality of your 'debate' and I will not miss it.

So far events have turned out almost exactly as I predicted and not at all as you have - so I will just have to live without the quality of your discourse

Of course the EU do not want to give us what we want and they will only do so if they are forced into it through - ..........its called negotiations stupid

The EU's brightest hope in all this remains the undermining of the UK by its own people - you are clearly a cheerleader
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And you're the kind of guy who laughs at his own jokes.
 
The perfect fumble said:
And you're the kind of guy who laughs at his own jokes.
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Well TBF that post contains more of substance than anything else I have read from you in recent months

I can see a GIF or 2 coming up - something really informative that makes you look...... well you can work it out
 
mcfc1632 said:
And in that post you display your (and Fumbles') true colours
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We're everywhere....

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mcfc1632 said:
Well that is a crap retort IMO.

The first half of your 'retort' demonstrates that you hold the UK in contempt.

If their have to be 'sides' - should you not be on the one that is your country?

The 2nd half is nonsense - we do not think that the EU will 'roll over' - we hope for the best for the UK in what are going to be very difficult negotiations.

Negotiations in which, quite alarmingly the greatest opposition seems to be the 'enemy within'. We have some strong cards to play but seem to be undermined by 'our own'
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Ah, patriotism. Last refuge of the scoundrel.
 
Vic said:
Ah, patriotism. Last refuge of the scoundrel.
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Am I supposed to feel insulted that you regard me to be patriotic in a situation where the UK needs to carefully manage a path trough difficult negotiations?

As I see it, I and others on here, are facing up to where we are now. We are living in the spring of 2017 - recognising the challenges our nation faces and hoping for the best for the UK - and all who sail in her.

You, Fumble, Len and others are still in the spring of 2016, fighting the referendum vote debate - content to envisage negative outcomes for the UK if you can then be proven to be right.
 
The perfect fumble said:
When you work out what that might be do let me know.
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A liberal fascist, cultural Marxist society.

A country run by emotional adult-children where everything will be judged on race and gender and where policy will be created on whether it doesn't offend feelings despite it being factually impossible or wrong to implement.
 
mcfc1632 said:
Am I supposed to feel insulted that you regard me to be patriotic in a situation where the UK needs to carefully manage a path trough difficult negotiations?

As I see it, I and others on here, are facing up to where we are now. We are living in the spring of 2017 - recognising the challenges our nation faces and hoping for the best for the UK - and all who sail in her.

You, Fumble, Len and others are still in the spring of 2016, fighting the referendum vote debate - content to envisage negative outcomes for the UK if you can then be proven to be right.
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That's not patriotism, it's jingoism.
 
The perfect fumble said:
That's not patriotism, it's jingoism.
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Only in your negative pro-EU mind I suggest.

Google is your friend if you are struggling with the definitions - or is it just another ill-thought through throw-away comment in an 'attempt' to look clever by rubbishing someone else. Your Gifs work better.

Keep it up - you will get round on to thick and racist I am sure
 
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