Nobody does but Kompany at half the player he was in 2012 is still better than what we have in defence at the moment. Add to that the aura and leadership qualities he brings and if fit he should be playing.
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Nobody does but Kompany at half the player he was in 2012 is still better than what we have in defence at the moment. Add to that the aura and leadership qualities he brings and if fit he should be playing.
kaz7
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I'm so attached to some of the old guard,must be a women thingYou're such a romantic.... unfortunately romance is dead, the OP is correct!
I'll be livid if we do Chelsea tomorrow, not because of Spurs but because if we'd gone for the jugular against Arsenal like we were supposed to, then we'd be right in the title race!!
Mate, I haven't forgiven the side for that second half the other day.
Arsenal were there for the taking yet we played the last 45 out like it was an exhibition match.
Zero leaders in my opinion.
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer
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I'm so attached to some of the old guard,must be a women thing
I think we all are as for most it represents the most successful period of our life, however, there will be new heroes and ones that probably surpass the old in terms of achievement.... I think we were extremely fortunate to land characters like vinny, zaba etc, those who ingrained themselves in the history and culture of the club, adopted mancs forever in my eyes. As a flip to this, we have a fair few local lads who have a real shot of being part of our future, that should be the priority now...
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer
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Mate, I haven't forgiven the side for that second half the other day.
Arsenal were there for the taking yet we played the last 45 out like it was an exhibition match.
Zero leaders in my opinion.
Yep, said the same in the aftermath, I was furious at the lack of leadership, it's why we yearn for komp,'zaba et al... Our problem won't be talent or ability over the next few years (see Arsenal), it will be finding the leader on the field, I personally think it will be peps hardest task!
uteblue
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I've been thinking recently of the season as a whole and some of the half hearted performances from some of the Mancini era players and I think it's down to their attitude towards pep, we had the 10 match unbeaten start and I think that was new manager bounce and once pep started implementing his way they started to tail off (that's why you get reports in the media of them complaining about wifi, chocolate, can't have sex after midnight before game, etc.) I just hope he moves the majority of them on like he did with the incumbents at Barcelona and gets 11 players bought into his ways next year, if that happens I really think we can do something special next yearWe are not at all like the dippers,i purposely didn't say we go again or we'll win everything next year,i just expect with decent players in to replace those no longer able to do it that we will have a better season,i'm looking foward to it already ,the next few weeks are rather meh
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer
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I've been thinking recently of the season as a whole and some of the half hearted performances from some of the Mancini era players and I think it's down to their attitude towards pep, we had the 10 match unbeaten start and I think that was new manager bounce and once pep started implementing his way they started to tail off (that's why you get reports in the media of them complaining about wifi, chocolate, can't have sex after midnight before game, etc.) I just hope he moves the majority of them on like he did with the incumbents at Barcelona and gets 11 players bought into his ways next year, if that happens I really think we can do something special next year
Out of interest, who's been complaining to the press??
It's nothing to do with it, unfortunately mother time has caught up with our core players. Pep will replenish, not because of attitude but the ability to play at the top level has faded!!
kaz7
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I think some of them are just too old for the high energy pressing game,zabba is a good example,he tries his very best always but his legs just can't do it anymore,there will be some that just don't like pep as a manager,i think it's a myth that every player loves himI've been thinking recently of the season as a whole and some of the half hearted performances from some of the Mancini era players and I think it's down to their attitude towards pep, we had the 10 match unbeaten start and I think that was new manager bounce and once pep started implementing his way they started to tail off (that's why you get reports in the media of them complaining about wifi, chocolate, can't have sex after midnight before game, etc.) I just hope he moves the majority of them on like he did with the incumbents at Barcelona and gets 11 players bought into his ways next year, if that happens I really think we can do something special next year
Back to this game and i don't think we will get anything from it,i'm quite worried about it
uteblue
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There have been multiple stories throughout the year, recently Otamendi and Aguero while on duty in Argentina talking about the wifi, can't remember off top which were quoted about the midnight and chocolate thing but they are there so obviously they talk about it in somewhat of a disgruntled way, don't think they are saying I love not being able to use my phone, etc. where there's smoke there's fire, I just think that they are not all doing what pep is asking...Out of interest, who's been complaining to the press??
It's nothing to do with it, unfortunately mother time has caught up with our core players. Pep will replenish, not because of attitude but the ability to play at the top level has faded!!
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer
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There have been multiple stories throughout the year, recently Otamendi and Aguero while on duty in Argentina talking about the wifi, can't remember off top which were quoted about the midnight and chocolate thing but they are there so obviously they talk about it in somewhat of a disgruntled way, don't think they are saying I love not being able to use my phone, etc. where there's smoke there's fire, I just think that they are not all doing what pep is asking...
Source....
Found it https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....manchester-city-training-ground-sergio-aguero
Again, you think that's complaining??
uteblue
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Didn't mean to take you away from this game, where I live most people have never hear of city so I come on here to throw my thoughts at people...I think some of them are just too old for the high energy pressing game,zabba is a good example,he tries his very best always but his legs just can't do it anymore,there will be some that just don't like pep as a manager,i think it's a myth that every player loves him
Back to this game and i don't think we will get anything from it,i'm quite worried about it
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I think some of them are just too old for the high energy pressing game,zabba is a good example,he tries his very best always but his legs just can't do it anymore,there will be some that just don't like pep as a manager,i think it's a myth that every player loves him
Back to this game and i don't think we will get anything from it,i'm quite worried about it
Normally I'd be worried, just as you are, but for reasons I can't quite put my finger on I think we'll stuff them.
kaz7
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No probs,i like chatting cityDidn't mean to take you away from this game, where I live most people have never hear of city so I come on here to throw my thoughts at people...
kaz7
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I'll have some of what you're havingNormally I'd be worried, just as you are, but for reasons I can't quite put my finger on I think we'll stuff them.
uteblue
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I think there's been something wrong with Aguero and others throughout this season and the team performance as a whole, of course you'll never get a straight answer but i started by saying I've just thought of the season as a whole and why the players have not bought into what Pep wants (the Arsenal and Monaco games after he said they forgot to play for parts of the game, that can be interpreted as they simply didn't do what pep told them), so it's not all rosy and something is causing the dissent, just giving some possible reasons why, could be totally off...Source....
Found it https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....manchester-city-training-ground-sergio-aguero
Again, you think that's complaining??
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In genuinely think we are the better team and will show it again today like we did at home.
I think we are the better team too. I'm just not that confident we'll deliver tomorrow.
City_Sean
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Yep, said the same in the aftermath, I was furious at the lack of leadership, it's why we yearn for komp,'zaba et al... Our problem won't be talent or ability over the next few years (see Arsenal), it will be finding the leader on the field, I personally think it will be peps hardest task!
I agree, exactly why I think Bonucci would be perfect for us. He's a leader and a world class CB.
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer
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I think there's been something wrong with Aguero and others throughout this season and the team performance as a whole, of course you'll never get a straight answer but i started by saying I've just thought of the season as a whole and why the players have not bought into what Pep wants (the Arsenal and Monaco games after he said they forgot to play for parts of the game, that can be interpreted as they simply didn't do what pep told them), so it's not all rosy and something is causing the dissent, just giving some possible reasons why, could be totally off...
It's the original point which I made, we lack a leader on the field to lift us in 'said' games... buying into pep isn't the problem, it's the ability of an aging squad, in fact team moral is probably better than it's ever been!
Sorry mate but that is a rubbish reason. We have a defender sitting twiddling his thumbs who would improve our defense massively, yet we don't play him because he might break down at some point? What are we saving him for then I wonder? He gets injured we just use one of three subs to replace him. It is one defender for another it doesn't change our system or change the way we are playing.
I agree. He might as well be tucked in bed with kelechi if he's never gonna play. He's fit enough to be on the bench therefore he's fit enough to play.
Nobody does but Kompany at half the player he was in 2012 is still better than what we have in defence at the moment. Add to that the aura and leadership qualities he brings and if fit he should be playing.
He was awful when he played earlier in the season and didn't bring any leadership...so the Kompany you're imagining is a fantasy.
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