Referees/Officials

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Chris in London said:
I don't disagree that Atkinson generally had a good game on Thursday.

However.

At the game I was concerned with how much time was wasted by the rags during the six minutes of added time, and how little the ref did about it, so when I watched the game again I made a note of how much time was missed waiting for the rags to complete a substitution, take a goal kick etc.

It was 45 seconds between Jesus scoring and De Gea taking the free kick for the offside decision. The substitution of Rashford took a full minute. De Gea took 40 seconds to take a goal kick after Jesus missed a near post chance and he took another 45 seconds to take a free kick in the corner in front of the rags supporters. So that in total is 3 minutes ten seconds. During the initial six minutes the ball was out of play more than it was in play.

How much additional time did the referee add after all that? 48 seconds. This is of course the referee that allowed the infamous fergietime goal in the 6th minute of injury time where he had signalled 4.

I don't blame the rags for deliberately time wasting, it's no more and no less than we'd have done if the positions had been reversed. I do think if the referee had got his card out the first time he met with time wasting from De Gea we would have had at least another minute or two of play.
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And we still would not have scored :).

All referees do that and so do all teams. it's up to the FA to sort. I'd have Martin Atkinson every week if we could.
 
Said before the Derby that the refs will revert to normal now , we may even get the odd favourable decision because their job is done for this season , we'll all forget or put it down to "bad luck" and roll up next year to be screwed all over again .
 
ballinio said:
Said before the Derby that the refs will revert to normal now , we may even get the odd favourable decision because their job is done for this season , we'll all forget or put it down to "bad luck" and roll up next year to be screwed all over again .
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Think the fact Yayas comments were widely reported may have had an effect
 
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Prestwich_Blue said:
Interesting story in the Torygraph about a dispute between Riley and the PL over video reffing. The PL wants the VAR to tell the ref something's happened but Riley wants the on-field ref to have control over when to use the VAR and for the ref to have the final say. I'll bet he does.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...-pgmo-split-referees-final-say-video-rulings/
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It's all rather convoluted. I can imagine any goal the Rags concede would have the previous 10 minutes reviewed until they find a reason not to give it, whilst any goal they score would just have all appeals waved away.

Either side of that argument above clearly has its ulterior motives, can't ever imagine either being on our side.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Interesting story in the Torygraph about a dispute between Riley and the PL over video reffing. The PL wants the VAR to tell the ref something's happened but Riley wants the on-field ref to have control over when to use the VAR and for the ref to have the final say. I'll bet he does.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...-pgmo-split-referees-final-say-video-rulings/
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that being said, Riley's option is ludicrous as proven by Kassai running over to look a numpty, only to give the wrong decision. The PL option is evidently already in use this season in some form, judging by the way refs in some games have been hanging around waiting to be told what decision/card to give.

Neither will work fairly, refs need to be audible to TV/crowd, with proper reviews and video replays on big screens where they are installed. All that will happen is the snidey VAR will be on "what are City players doing that in slo-mo from an obscure angle looks hideous" watch, whilst they will never flag up the latest Ibra elbow.
 
Enough time is wasted in matches already without having Jon Moss, for example, waddle over to the sidelines to adjudicate.

The delays for decisions in rugby seem interminable, when you are in the ground, and these time delays obviously have to be filled with audible chewing gum for the masses, so you end up with blaring music. Whichever is introduced has to be accurate but also swift so that no further momentum is lost.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Probably.
I'm pretty sure the Lino actually guessed because he was a yard behind play.
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I think the six yard box line made it a fairly easy decision for him.

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As I have said if a video ref is used, every decision made and referee comms needs to be publicly available - preferably not on the day of the game as that would be pure "Bread and Circus" TV that as a race of sentient beings we really should do without.
 
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