Seasoncard Renewals 2017/18

Blingy is obviously a wind-up merchant.

I don't think anyone can take him or her seriously.

Best to move on.
 
blingy said:
I'd rather a infusiastic jcl sat next to me then a moaning codger harping on about why he can no longer get a boiled dog Berger from piss water outside the ground for 80p
How can anyone moan now about our management, having gone through the miss management we have in the past, and if you been going that long surly your at or are the quite near to our outstanding oap rate? Don't get it


Sorry and no offence but what exactly should 1962 count for ?
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The thread has been littered with reasons why people can be critical of the mgmt structure. Instead you have ignored many valid points, failed to acknowledge them and to vindicate your argument have tried to trivialise people's opinions with your 'boiled dog Berger'.
 
It's always been the case that supporters have been at best taken for granted. Our club has always been own and run by a select tiny group. This time they were fabulously wealthy, but it turns out that the wealth does not necessarily mean they are any more competent than the last lot.

I was never under the impression that MCFC was run by and for the supporters. I always knew that it might represent the hopes of a lot of mancunians and football fans but it was the private property of a tiny small group. One day, we got very lucky and an immensely wealthy man bought our club, and bought us trophies, but his wealth doesn't make him or his administrators appointed to run his club on his behalf infallible. We are now faced with the task of re-building a team all over again which annoys me a lot more than an insensitive boardroom chasing £££. The good old days of the standing Kippax, Maine Rd was a state of war on the forecourt as a thousand fans ritually besieged the main entrance after the game so if any long standing fans are packing it in because they've suddenly realised that they aren't the no 1 priority of the MCFC board then where have you been for the last 40 years. it's always been like this. We've just gone from minor businessman to royalty, but neither had much time for us whatever they might say.

A couple of years ago I really did cross my mind that City were God's own club, and that our unbelievable loyalty was being repaid, but now I can see our inheritance melting away, and it's dawning on us that the custodians and administrators of this club are no more competent than the previous lot, they just happen to have a richer paymaster. I'm quite happy with the coach Guardiola. But why was Mancini's team allowed to wither and die? FFP is not the entire answer.

Some fans might be fed up for their own particular reason. My gripe is that we've gone from being the pre-eminent football club to being No. 3 or 4 with quite a big gap to the top 2, and I think there are other clubs who are going to move as quickly as we are. Getting to the top is the hard bit. Once you're there you can do what Liverpool and Man Utd did for two decades, but no we cocked it up.

I suppose we should still be really happy. 90 out of 92 clubs would still want to be where we are. We could be Sunderland fans on our way to yet another relegation with zero trophies in sight. There's 40,000 of them suffering with an American Billionaire running their club who possibly wants to sell up.
 
squirtyflower said:
I couldn't give a fuck what you thought last week, what you think today or what you think next week. You're just not worth the time or energy. You're also ageist but that's fuxk all to you.
I won't be responding to your diatribe again.nighty night
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That may be but Yet you have already spent time and energy replying !! Agest, just coz I deducted you are near or at the oap price range,it doesn't take Eisenstein to work that out if you was watching us in the 60s. No offence meant to you personally
 
franksinatra said:
The thread has been littered with reasons why people can be critical of the mgmt structure. Instead you have ignored many valid points, failed to acknowledge them and to vindicate your argument have tried to trivialise people's opinions with your 'boiled dog Berger'.
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he's still right though. Who really believes that MCFC is run by and for its supporters. It never was. The board is tasked with football and commercial operations. They just happen to have made a mess of the football side of it, and now fans have realised that the team that they thought was Champions elect under super coach Guardiola is quite some way off where we should be. We scale Everest once. Now we've got to do it again, but I suppose we're starting from Everest base camp this time, or perhaps K2, instead of the mariannas trench
 
blingy said:
No critic from me pal,
love the club , love he progress it has made in the 35 years I have been following them, love the fact that they are giving me qoulity football at a qoulity venue for a decent price.
Would I love it to be cheeper hell yes would I love free beer hell yes but am I living in the real world hell yes.. can't be doing with all this slagging the club off, if things are to change it's got to be on a national basis and think it's just a excuse for those who wanted to sack it off to do so, same ppl moaning about everything.. great move by the club to have rooted out the negative personel and gloom mongers for a small cost of £1 per game, freeing up space for those who actually want to support the club rather then slag it off for everything they don't agree with.. feel for those who genially can't afford it, but the £15 a season increase (mines £10 btw) has exposed those who was just waiting for it and was gutted it didn't happen last year.. seeing exactly the same shit on here as last year,some must have been gutted it didn't go up and had to go another season. Your either in or out but don't harp on about it to be brutally honest no fker cares.
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What a horrendous post.

If what people are saying on here is true, we're the only club in the league to put prices up. This coming in yet another year of record revenue due to TV money. The £15 extra is very little in value over a season but is the principle of the rise. It's absolute peanuts to them and doesn't scratch the surface of revenue and yet they're doing it anyway. In fact, ticket sales in total aren't a major factor, specifically season tickets. We waste more money on a 3rd choice keeper.

You look at how many foreign clubs give gestures to fans and here in England we're milked like fuck, considering we've got the highest TV money. It's an absolute joke by a club who's stadium is situated in the poorest area, of any club in the league.

City are hell bent on changing City's supporters demographic, they don't want working class people there who may only buy a couple of pints and go home. Soriano wants people who will spend £50 plus, not sing or stand and fuck off home. They'd rather someone in the corporate section buy a seat for x amount of thousands over a season and sit in it twice all year, than someone attending every game in the £299 section.

This club is purely about spreadsheets now and it's gone too far. I genuinely think Soriano would see a half empty stadium filled with half and half scarve wearing corporates, so long as match day revenue is up by 5% at the end of the year.

The biggest joke is the manager calling for an atmosphere when his bosses are doing everything to kill one.
 
franksinatra said:
The thread has been littered with reasons why people can be critical of the mgmt structure. Instead you have ignored many valid points, failed to acknowledge them and to vindicate your argument have tried to trivialise people's opinions with your 'boiled dog Berger'.
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good post mate. its as if you can't criticize anything the club do now, you have to just accept everything.people with genuine concerns and people who have been going for years priced out, but you get responses about ' wanting to go back in time and "harping on about why he can no longer get a boiled dog Berger from piss water outside the ground for 80p" ( literally no one has said anything like that) . its a bit ridiculous really. and then apparently because we've been mismanaged in the past we can't disagree with parts of management now.

usual responses
" thats the price of success"
" would you rather be playing against york again"
 
franksinatra said:
The thread has been littered with reasons why people can be critical of the mgmt structure. Instead you have ignored many valid points, failed to acknowledge them and to vindicate your argument have tried to trivialise people's opinions with your 'boiled dog Berger'.
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Yea sorry that last bit makes no sense what so ever..
I see this thread littered with bitching about our club and great owners and management from many of those who was bitching last year even b4 the freez was announced. I see short memories from those going on about queues here there and every where, transport (which his was marginally better back in the day but I was younger and fitter then so could walk more) atmosphere bla bla bla, it's just a winge fest over a £1 when alls said and done.
 
Ban-jani said:
What a horrendous post.

If what people are saying on here is true, we're the only club in the league to put prices up. This coming in yet another year of record revenue due to TV money. The £15 extra is very little in value over a season but is the principle of the rise. It's absolute peanuts to them and doesn't scratch the surface of revenue and yet they're doing it anyway. In fact, ticket sales in total aren't a major factor, specifically season tickets. We waste more money on a 3rd choice keeper.

You look at how many foreign clubs give gestures to fans and here in England we're milked like fuck, considering we've got the highest TV money. It's an absolute joke by a club who's stadium is situated in the poorest area, of any club in the league.

City are hell bent on changing City's supporters demographic, they don't want working class people there who may only buy a couple of pints and go home. Soriano wants people who will spend £50 plus, not sing or stand and fuck off home. They'd rather someone in the corporate section buy a seat for x amount of thousands over a season and sit in it twice all year, than someone attending every game in the £299 section.

This club is purely about spreadsheets now and it's gone too far. I genuinely think Soriano would see a half empty stadium filled with half and half scarve wearing corporates, so long as match day revenue is up by 5% at the end of the year.

The biggest joke is the manager calling for an atmosphere when his bosses are doing everything to kill one.
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i hope that does happen to be honest. it might give the owners and management a wake up call. a half empty stadium, with no atmosphere and barely any of the working class locals in the ground would lead to the death of our club imo. it wouldn't be city anymore. its feels like its going that way swell. it hasn't gone up by much, but you can see the effect high match day tickets and increasing corporate areas are having in the ground. less noise, less passion and even older fan base. at wembley last week the average age must have been about 55.
 
Prophet of Doom said:
Can't believe some of the tripe written in this thread.

Modern football is shite. We all know that. But the angry mob jumping on this £1 a month increase is pathetic. Dozens of things worth moaning about at City, some real serious mistakes by the club ..but this ain't one of them. Ask any other club would they accept 50p a game for an annual £125m net spend and they would snap your hand off. Just not for our 'I preferred it when we were shit' brigade. At least it will give us another excuse for empty seats or leaving early next year.

As for the balloons on here making multiple posts everyday that they have had enough with City. Good. Bye.
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Sheikh Mansour bought the club in 2008. 9 years ago this Summer.

Reading your post season tickets should have gone up by £108 across the board. After all, they'be only gone up by £1 a month haven't they?

When in reality.....

My season ticket used to be £400. It's now £665. Where's that £1 a month increase gone?

My season ticket has increased by nearly £30 a season over the last 9 seasons. This season was the only season it didn't rise due to the fans complaining about constant season ticket price increases before the start of this season.

Other Season tickets across the stadium are even more expensive. £900, etc.

Add to that the increase in beer, drinks, water(£1.50 for a small bottle), food, programmes, parking, merchandise, matchday ticket prices(up to £60), citizen card price increases, platinum £50 prices, etc, and your £1 a season price increase starts reading like a load of bollocks. Apologies for being so blunt.

You can also add no communication between the club and the fans, fans being turfed out of their seats to make way for the tunnel club, while the plebs on the concourses have to grapple each other to get served at the bars, Showsec, searches before going into the ground, issues with tickets, Glasgow, etc.

And then you wonder why that £1 a month increase isn't such a good deal after all, and why fans are rightly pissed off with the club ATM.
 
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Marvin said:
he's still right though. Who really believes that MCFC is run by and for its supporters. It never was. The board is tasked with football and commercial operations. They just happen to have made a mess of the football side of it, and now fans have realised that the team that they thought was Champions elect under super coach Guardiola is quite some way off where we should be. We scale Everest once. Now we've got to do it again, but I suppose we're starting from Everest base camp this time, or perhaps K2, instead of the mariannas trench
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I am not sure where he has written or I have disagreed with the assertion that previous that MCFC is run by and for its supporters.

My issue with his post was the trivialising of people's complaints and not acknowledging their were legitimate concerns from supporters.

You are probably correct the ownership of the club was probably never managed to benefit the supporters however I think similarly, in this post, you have failed to recognise the valid criticisms of mgmt and are inferring that fans disharmony is correlated with events on the field, I very much doubt that is the case.

Whether it be the Tunnel, Joes, Priority tickets, away tickets it appears to grass roots supporters priority is being given to those with the deepest pockets and that would naturally result in criticism by those who propped up the club in less financially rewarding times.
 
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blingy said:
If my views wind you up jrb then that's yours to own, doesn't make me a merchant, and sure the masses on here don't need you to tell them what to take seriously or not..
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Your views don't wind me up. I just smiled then laughed when I read them.

Only a comedy genius could right stuff like that.

Carry on with your (MCFC) script.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
good post mate. its as if you can't criticize anything the club do now, you have to just accept everything.people with genuine concerns and people who have been going for years priced out, but you get responses about ' wanting to go back in time and "harping on about why he can no longer get a boiled dog Berger from piss water outside the ground for 80p" ( literally no one has said anything like that) . its a bit ridiculous really. and then apparently because we've been mismanaged in the past we can't disagree with parts of management now.

usual responses
" thats the price of success"
" would you rather be playing against york again"
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I know. It's always very much black and white with some people. Yoor either with us or against us.

I am extremely grateful for the events over the last few years but it does not mean I do not have reservations about the direction of the club and it's prioritising of a more corporate clientele even if that means uprooting fans from their seats and the like.

The price increase this year is neither here nor there but acts as an example of the direction the club is taking which has resulted for many in a disconnection from the club. There are wider issues than the couple of quid increase but some people seem desperate to trivialise them.
 
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I've just spent £770 for my season ticket, a practice I've done annually since the mid to late late 70's.

At the moment I can afford it, however there might come a time in the future when I can't, but thats not now.

I'm looking forward to the close season.

A family holiday, watching some cricket at both International, County and Lancashire League level.

Then it all begins again in August!!!
 
I think deep down we have always known as supporters where we stand, or sit in the pecking order. When times weren't so bad the club pushed the prices up a bit and people were waiting to step in if others didn't pay it. Did the club give a fuck about the fans? No. When the shit hit the fan and we dropped to the old third division they were on bended knees begging us not to desert them.Did the club give a fuck about the fans? No, but they wanted our support to keep the club alive, so there was almost a power transference to the supporters, for a short while.

Fast forward to the takeover and the club held all the power. After years of paying to watch shit football and footballers on the whole, with no prospect of ever winning another trophy we now had hope and in spite of some minor concerns we swallowed the increases because we wanted to be part of this new era after decades in the wilderness. There still seemed to be a connection though with the fans, that bond, the right noises were made, they seemed to fight our corner, understand the needle with the rags, that detestable banner, how much it meant to us to now be able to compete. I can't pinpoint exactly when, where or how but this changed, almost without us seeing it. The season ticket increase isn't the major issue for the annoyance, it is just a catalogue of small insidious issues that has alienated a large proportion of our fan base and if I was the club I would be very concerned indeed.
 
blingy said:
But you said I was a wind up merchant , but now I don't wind you up, make your mined up !! Strange sence of hummer...
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You've probably wound up a few BM posters on here with that post.

I didn't take you or your post seriously. I'm sure quite a few others on here didn't either.

Saying that, if you're so happy with the club ATM, you would' to waste your time on this thread.

You're better off on the transfer forum, or the new shirt thread.

Both of those threads should make you even happier.

An exciting end of season and pre-season awaits.

Then roll on next season, and it all starts again. :-)
 
Tim of the Oak said:
Maybe for you Frank but some people will be swept along. There has been plenty of valid criticisms of the Club and the price increase is a mistake. That said, I sense some posters won't be happen until their criticisms reach the media. No doubt the click bait approach will drive advertising revenues to this forum.

If that's a ban for me so be it because the constant negativity on here, across many threads, is every bit as much a puss take as the Club's very poor pricing policy.
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I would not like the media to do our bidding but is there any dialogue between the club and fan groups? I am sure I read those meetings have stopped of late.

I do understand people's concerns at the direction of the club, and share some of them, but you are correct there are still many positives about the club, which I have benefitted from, and that does need acknowledging also.
 
Ban-jani said:
Is that true? Only club in the league to increase?
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Chelsea have frozen and reduced a few prices despite them being favourites to win the league. Here we are increasing season ticket prices whilst struggling to finish top 4. Liverpool have frozen their prices and they're currently doing better than us in the league. Their neighbours have frozen and reduced prices in certain areas. Burnley have frozen their prices too. That's all I know so far...

...Oh and even the rags have frozen their prices.....
 
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